Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Mantrik » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:20 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:15 pm
Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:52 pm

No, I'm pretty sure it was the way I remember it.
No. I'm sure it was Tolkein's 'Ork like an Egyptian'.
Either way she was drop dead gorgeous ...... and if she started a cult I may just.....
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:48 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:07 pm
DiamondMeru wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:26 pm
I am an Egyptian Wiccan ...

This made me think of that Bangles song, I think it was called something like "Wicc like an Egyptian".
dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:15 pm
No, I'm pretty sure it was the way I remember it.

http://www.song-list.net/thebangles/songs


:Walk Like An Egyptian: is the only thing close to what you said : " "Wicc like an Egyptian"

you are so full of it :smile:
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm

The Cicada wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:19 pm
I'm not trying to make a name as a hijacker, so pardon this slight deviation from the thread's current course, but what about Greek deities? They were already integrated (we might even say "converted") in ancient Buddhist Gandhara.

No hijacking here, just curious. Honest.
And Ancient Greek religion was heavily influenced by Ancient Egyptian religion, especially the various Ancient Greek Mystery sects/cults.

I believe that it is possible for deities to be converted to Buddhism, but it takes a realised being to do the job.

One time I asked my teacher about a local protector and how it would be possible to garner favor with them so that they could help the Dharma flourish here. Problem was that the locals sacrifice a bull to the protector (very Christian, right?), so how would I go about satisfying them without going against Buddhist practice? My teacher recommended a red torma shaped like a bulls head.

So possibilities abound when it comes to non-Buddhist deities, but is one in the position to convert?

Maybe, in this particular case, the Nechung Oracle saw this possibility?
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:12 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:20 pm
No. I'm sure it was Tolkein's 'Ork like an Egyptian'.

Now you're just being ridorculous.


Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:48 pm
http://www.song-list.net/thebangles/songs


:Walk Like An Egyptian: is the only thing close to what you said : " "Wicc like an Egyptian"

you are so full of it :smile:

Well, maybe you've got a point there.
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by dzogchungpa » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:36 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm
The Cicada wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:19 pm
I'm not trying to make a name as a hijacker, so pardon this slight deviation from the thread's current course, but what about Greek deities? They were already integrated (we might even say "converted") in ancient Buddhist Gandhara.

No hijacking here, just curious. Honest.
And Ancient Greek religion was heavily influenced by Ancient Egyptian religion, especially the various Ancient Greek Mystery sects/cults.

I believe that it is possible for deities to be converted to Buddhism, but it takes a realised being to do the job.

One time I asked my teacher about a local protector and how it would be possible to garner favor with them so that they could help the Dharma flourish here. Problem was that the locals sacrifice a bull to the protector (very Christian, right?), so how would I go about satisfying them without going against Buddhist practice? My teacher recommended a red torma shaped like a bulls head.

So possibilities abound when it comes to non-Buddhist deities, but is one in the position to convert?

Maybe, in this particular case, the Nechung Oracle saw this possibility?

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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Mantrik » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:36 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm


I believe that it is possible for deities to be converted to Buddhism, but it takes a realised being to do the job.
Isn't it just a matter of Buddhas manifesting in the form most suitable for the person, time and place?
There is no conversion necessary.
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:00 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:36 pm
Isn't it just a matter of Buddhas manifesting in the form most suitable for the person, time and place?
There is no conversion necessary.
I am not sure this is the case with earthly deities since they are just (ignorant) sentient beings like you and me.
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:03 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm
Maybe, in this particular case, the Nechung Oracle saw this possibility?
Exactly....

Do you think she would of had to take refuge as a prerequisite, to be Crowned as a emanation of Mamaki ?
Then it may have planted the seed in her heart to renounce all worldly deities...maybe it takes a little time for a full conversion...and that there is some overlapping now of who she was..... (still identifying with her other religion).
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Aryjna » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:22 pm

Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:03 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:11 pm
Maybe, in this particular case, the Nechung Oracle saw this possibility?
Exactly....

Do you think she would of had to take refuge as a prerequisite, to be Crowned as a emanation of Mamaki ?
Then it may have planted the seed in her heart to renounce all worldly deities...maybe it takes a little time for a full conversion...and that there is some overlapping now of who she was..... (still identifying with her other religion).
Being crowned is completely irrelevant, one either is an emanation or not.

I am starting to feel a light nausea every time I see the name 'Mamaki' mentioned in association to that woman :D

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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:38 pm

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Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:15 pm
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Re: Nechung Kuten Recognizes Yeye Omileye

Post by Grigoris » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:53 pm

Right, I think that is about enough discussion on this issue.

If anybody has anything intelligent to add to the discussion please message me.

Be warned: Any attempt to engage in meta-discussion about this topic elsewhere on the forum, will be dealt with swiftly and with extreme prejudice.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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