Padmasambhava Visualization?

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Tenma
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Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Tenma » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm

How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Wed May 02, 2018 8:06 pm

no limits, that's the point
"Don't profess a view you haven't realized!
Since the view is devoid of viewing, mind essence is an expanse of great emptiness.
Since the meditation is without meditating, leave your individual experience free from fixation.
Since the conduct is without acting, it is unfabricated naturalness.
Since the fruition is without abandoning or achieving, it is the dharmakaya of great bliss.
These four sentences are words from my heart:
Contradict them and you fail to discover the nature of Ati Yoga."


Guru Padmasambhava.
From "Advice from the Lotus-Born".

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Malcolm » Wed May 02, 2018 8:55 pm

Tenma wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm
How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?
Same way you visualize s universe in an atom

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by tingdzin » Wed May 02, 2018 11:08 pm

Javier is right -- the poin tis to transcend habitual limits of spatial relationships. In the end, though, like all of real vajrayana, i thas to be understood through practice rather than by philosophical or rational means.

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by climb-up » Wed May 02, 2018 11:28 pm

Don't worry about him being "universally enormous."

I remember being hung up at times about certain tiny visualizations, and my problems ended being just conceptual. Actually doing the visualizations solved any problems and answered any questions.

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by dzogchungpa » Wed May 02, 2018 11:43 pm

DJKR often talks about this point using the "Hindu" example of Ganesh's mount being a mouse, see e.g.
http://dzongsar.justdharma.com/2012/01/ ... this-life/
There is not only nothingness because there is always, and always can manifest. - Thinley Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Sennin » Thu May 03, 2018 12:17 am

From a sutra:
  • Whoever imagines the Buddha,
    The Muni will be there in front of them.
There is neither sharp nor dull in the capacity of sentient beings.
If asked why this is so, it is because an introduction is sufficient.

--Rigpa Rangdrol

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by PSM » Thu May 03, 2018 6:31 am

How big is a visualisation anyway?
"The only virtue which cannot be faked is courage" - Nassim Nicholas Taleb
"Not practicing dharma is painful" - Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche
"We don't want to feel the weirdness of life." - James Low

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by lelopa » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 am

Tenma wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm
How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?
try to reflect like a mirror:
in a small mirror you can see a whole landscape -
the landscape doesn't become smaller.
हूं हूं हूं
फट् फट् फट्

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun May 06, 2018 9:44 pm

did you succed?
"Don't profess a view you haven't realized!
Since the view is devoid of viewing, mind essence is an expanse of great emptiness.
Since the meditation is without meditating, leave your individual experience free from fixation.
Since the conduct is without acting, it is unfabricated naturalness.
Since the fruition is without abandoning or achieving, it is the dharmakaya of great bliss.
These four sentences are words from my heart:
Contradict them and you fail to discover the nature of Ati Yoga."


Guru Padmasambhava.
From "Advice from the Lotus-Born".

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