Padmasambhava Visualization?

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Tenma
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Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Tenma » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm

How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Wed May 02, 2018 8:06 pm

no limits, that's the point

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Malcolm » Wed May 02, 2018 8:55 pm

Tenma wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm
How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?
Same way you visualize s universe in an atom
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by tingdzin » Wed May 02, 2018 11:08 pm

Javier is right -- the poin tis to transcend habitual limits of spatial relationships. In the end, though, like all of real vajrayana, i thas to be understood through practice rather than by philosophical or rational means.

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by climb-up » Wed May 02, 2018 11:28 pm

Don't worry about him being "universally enormous."

I remember being hung up at times about certain tiny visualizations, and my problems ended being just conceptual. Actually doing the visualizations solved any problems and answered any questions.

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by dzogchungpa » Wed May 02, 2018 11:43 pm

DJKR often talks about this point using the "Hindu" example of Ganesh's mount being a mouse, see e.g.
http://dzongsar.justdharma.com/2012/01/ ... this-life/
There is not only nothingness because there is always, and always can manifest. - Thinley Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by Sennin » Thu May 03, 2018 12:17 am

From a sutra:
  • Whoever imagines the Buddha,
    The Muni will be there in front of them.
Go no paradigm! ;)

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by PSM » Thu May 03, 2018 6:31 am

How big is a visualisation anyway?
"The only virtue which cannot be faked is courage" - Nassim Nicholas Taleb
"We don't want to feel the weirdness of life." - James Low

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by lelopa » Thu May 03, 2018 6:41 am

Tenma wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:07 pm
How does one visualize a universally enormous Padmamsabhava inside a tiny palace the size of a sesame seed? I can visualize a tiny Padmasmabhava in a huge palace, but not vice versa. Could someone please help in this visualization?
try to reflect like a mirror:
in a small mirror you can see a whole landscape -
the landscape doesn't become smaller.
ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Padmasambhava Visualization?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun May 06, 2018 9:44 pm

did you succed?

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