Barche Lamsel Visualization?
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Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Quite wonderful! Thank you M.
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Dorje Drakpo Tsal
Kalden Drenze
Rakṣa Tötreng
Can't find a good picture but it looks a little like Dorje Drakpo Tsal but dark red, normally in the upper right corner.
Guru Dechen Gyalpo
Kalden Drenze
Rakṣa Tötreng
Can't find a good picture but it looks a little like Dorje Drakpo Tsal but dark red, normally in the upper right corner.
Guru Dechen Gyalpo
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Thank you very much for these images! But it seems to me that these thangka images are very different from what the prayer describes. For instance, in the case of Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, the prayer states:
སྲིན་པོའི་ཁ་གནོན་མཛད་པའི་ཚེ༔
sinpö khanön dzepé tsé
When overpowering the rakṣasas,
ཁྱེའུ་ཆུང་སྤྲུལ་སྐུའི་ཆ་ལུགས་ཅན༔
khyé'u chung tulkü chaluk chen
You appear as a youth in nirmāṇakāya garb,
ཡ་མཚན་གཟུགས་བཟང་ཁ་དོག་ལེགས༔
yatsen zuk zang khadok lek
Your amazing, beautiful form, with its lovely hue,
ཚེམས་འགྲིགས་དབུ་སྐྲ་སེར་ལ་མཛེས༔
tsem drik utra ser la dzé
Perfect teeth and golden hair, gorgeous
དགུང་ལོ་བཅུ་དྲུག་ལོན་པའི་ཚུལ༔
gunglo chudruk lönpé tsul
Like a youth of sixteen years,
རིན་ཆེན་རྒྱན་ཆ་སྣ་ཚོགས་གསོལ༔
rinchen gyencha natsok sol
Wearing all the jewel ornaments.
ཕྱག་གཡས་འཁར་བའི་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
chak yé kharwé purpa nam
Your right hand grips a phurba of bronze,
བདུད་དང་སྲིན་པོའི་ཁ་གནོན་མཛད༔
dü dang sinpö khanön dzé
Subjugating māras and rakṣasas.
གཡོན་པས་སེང་ལྡེང་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
yönpé sengdeng purpa nam
Your left hand holds a phurba of teak,
མོས་པའི་བུ་ལ་སྲུང་སྐྱོབ་མཛད༔
möpé bu la sung kyob dzé
Granting protection to your devoted sons and daughters,
མགུལ་ན་ལྕགས་ཀྱི་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
gul na chak kyi purpa nam
Around your neck you wear a phurba of iron—
ཡི་དམ་ལྷ་དང་གཉིས་སུ་མེད༔
yidam lha dang nyisumé
You and the yidam deity are insepararble,
གཉིས་མེད་སྤྲུལ་སྐུ་འཛམ་གླིང་རྒྱན༔
nyimé tulku dzamling gyen
O Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, manifestation of non-duality:
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
སྲིན་པོའི་ཁ་གནོན་མཛད་པའི་ཚེ༔
sinpö khanön dzepé tsé
When overpowering the rakṣasas,
ཁྱེའུ་ཆུང་སྤྲུལ་སྐུའི་ཆ་ལུགས་ཅན༔
khyé'u chung tulkü chaluk chen
You appear as a youth in nirmāṇakāya garb,
ཡ་མཚན་གཟུགས་བཟང་ཁ་དོག་ལེགས༔
yatsen zuk zang khadok lek
Your amazing, beautiful form, with its lovely hue,
ཚེམས་འགྲིགས་དབུ་སྐྲ་སེར་ལ་མཛེས༔
tsem drik utra ser la dzé
Perfect teeth and golden hair, gorgeous
དགུང་ལོ་བཅུ་དྲུག་ལོན་པའི་ཚུལ༔
gunglo chudruk lönpé tsul
Like a youth of sixteen years,
རིན་ཆེན་རྒྱན་ཆ་སྣ་ཚོགས་གསོལ༔
rinchen gyencha natsok sol
Wearing all the jewel ornaments.
ཕྱག་གཡས་འཁར་བའི་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
chak yé kharwé purpa nam
Your right hand grips a phurba of bronze,
བདུད་དང་སྲིན་པོའི་ཁ་གནོན་མཛད༔
dü dang sinpö khanön dzé
Subjugating māras and rakṣasas.
གཡོན་པས་སེང་ལྡེང་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
yönpé sengdeng purpa nam
Your left hand holds a phurba of teak,
མོས་པའི་བུ་ལ་སྲུང་སྐྱོབ་མཛད༔
möpé bu la sung kyob dzé
Granting protection to your devoted sons and daughters,
མགུལ་ན་ལྕགས་ཀྱི་ཕུར་པ་བསྣམས༔
gul na chak kyi purpa nam
Around your neck you wear a phurba of iron—
ཡི་དམ་ལྷ་དང་གཉིས་སུ་མེད༔
yidam lha dang nyisumé
You and the yidam deity are insepararble,
གཉིས་མེད་སྤྲུལ་སྐུ་འཛམ་གླིང་རྒྱན༔
nyimé tulku dzamling gyen
O Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, manifestation of non-duality:
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Great images
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Merci beaucoup! Ça c'est bonne!
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Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Not that thangkas are very reliable in general bu he looks like that in all thangkas I every seen, that includes the thangkas of the lineage masters in this tradition, so I think that is how he look. Of course that might not be the idea you get from the description but that doesn't mean it's wrong. I think they might actually be compatible.Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 am Thank you very much for these images! But it seems to me that these thangka images are very different from what the prayer describes. For instance, in the case of Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, the prayer states:
<snip>
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
How is a peaceful smile compatible with being wrathful?heart wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:10 pmNot that thangkas are very reliable in general bu he looks like that in all thangkas I every seen, that includes the thangkas of the lineage masters in this tradition, so I think that is how he look. Of course that might not be the idea you get from the description but that doesn't mean it's wrong. I think they might actually be compatible.Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 am Thank you very much for these images! But it seems to me that these thangka images are very different from what the prayer describes. For instance, in the case of Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, the prayer states:
<snip>
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
/magnus
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
There are different kinds of wrathful. Also he is described like this in the various sadhanas of this cycle.Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:53 pmHow is a peaceful smile compatible with being wrathful?heart wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:10 pmNot that thangkas are very reliable in general bu he looks like that in all thangkas I every seen, that includes the thangkas of the lineage masters in this tradition, so I think that is how he look. Of course that might not be the idea you get from the description but that doesn't mean it's wrong. I think they might actually be compatible.Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 am Thank you very much for these images! But it seems to me that these thangka images are very different from what the prayer describes. For instance, in the case of Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, the prayer states:
<snip>
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
/magnus
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Also his mantra is very wrathful.
/magnus
/magnus
"We are all here to help each other go through this thing, whatever it is."
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
~Kurt Vonnegut
"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)
Re: Barche Lamsel Visualization?
Which line of the prayer mentions a smile?Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 11:53 pmHow is a peaceful smile compatible with being wrathful?heart wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:10 pmNot that thangkas are very reliable in general bu he looks like that in all thangkas I every seen, that includes the thangkas of the lineage masters in this tradition, so I think that is how he look. Of course that might not be the idea you get from the description but that doesn't mean it's wrong. I think they might actually be compatible.Tenma wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:45 am Thank you very much for these images! But it seems to me that these thangka images are very different from what the prayer describes. For instance, in the case of Dzam Ling Gyen Chok, the prayer states:
<snip>
And here, this is not quite the case. So the thangka or the prayer?
/magnus