Can you read the bolden part?Aryjna wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:34 pmThis is about Anuyoga not DzogchenWeiHan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:33 pmCheck florin's post in page 2 on ChNNR's explanation.
CNNr speaking about anuyoga says the following:
"....when they arrive at the ultimate stage or arrival point of their transformation practice, they call it Dzogchen. The ultimate stage or arrival point of Anuyoga, they call Dzogchen. Whereas the arrival point or ultimate stage of all of Mahayoga, that is, all of the path of transformation which proceeds through gradual visualization, is always called Mahamudra. It is clear that this changes nothing since the ultimate point in Mahamudra and Dzogchen are one and the same thing. But the path taken to arrive there, the method used, are not the same............
Yes, I can. But as I said, and as it says in the post itself, he is talking about Anuyoga. This is a separate vehicle which leads to the state of Dzogchen in the end. It is not the vehicle called Dzogchen.
So Dzogchen is name of a path as well as name of the fruit? The path that can be followed and practiced by non-aryans are practices like those in Rushens...