Kyabgon Gongma Trichen Rinpoche is the Mind Emanation of Guru Rinpoche

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Kyabgon Gongma Trichen Rinpoche is the Mind Emanation of Guru Rinpoche

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http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/Jangter:

"...there are the Three Supreme Emanations, who are full Manifestations of the Body, Speech and Mind of Guru Rinpoche. The Body emanation is Nyang Rel Nyima Od Ser, and the Speech emanation is Guru Chowang; the Great Awareness-Holder Rigdzin Godem, discoverer of the Byangter, is the Emanation of the Mind, the highest of the three."

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... n_Rinpoche:

"...an incarnation of Apang Tertön."

http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... ert%C3%B6n:

"Apang Tertön was considered to be the reincarnation of Rigdzin Gödem..."
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Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
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Kyabgon Gongma Trichen Rinpoche's grand daughter is Yeshe Tsogyal.
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Motova wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
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Oh, I know yet another guy who is claimed to actually be Padmasambhava. Don't ask me which emanation that would be. Nevertheless, he's a lovely chap. In Tibet they don't seem to have a problem to have several Padmasambhavas around.
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fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:19 amIn Tibet they don't seem to have a problem to have several Padmasambhavas around.
Why would they? It's a perfectly orthodox opinion to hold.
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Motova wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
Recognized by his mother, but not really enthroned, or recognized by anyone else as such.
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Malcolm wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:05 pm
Motova wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
Recognized by his mother, but not really enthroned, or recognized by anyone else as such.
Is the story of Khyentse Chokyi Lodro recognizing and enthroning him a fabrication?
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yan kong wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:48 pm
fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:19 amIn Tibet they don't seem to have a problem to have several Padmasambhavas around.
Why would they? It's a perfectly orthodox opinion to hold.
You know, for any odd reason in Tibet tulkus are or were born in rich and influential families with much higher probability than in poor and not so influential ones. Now, perhaps tulkus generally just seem to have an unexplained preference to be born in rich and influential families? Or it's their fortunate karma?

Or then, perhaps the explanation is by far less romantic.

Hence: My point of having several Padmasambhavas around was not so much about the number of them, but rather about the point that there seems to be a certain level of, well, let's call it "arbitrariness" to it.
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fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:10 pm
yan kong wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:48 pm
fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:19 amIn Tibet they don't seem to have a problem to have several Padmasambhavas around.
Why would they? It's a perfectly orthodox opinion to hold.
You know, for any odd reason in Tibet tulkus are or were born in rich and influential families with much higher probability than in poor and not so influential ones. Now, perhaps tulkus generally just seem to have an unexplained preference to be born in rich and influential families? Or it's their fortunate karma?

Or then, perhaps the explanation is by far less romantic.

Hence: My point of having several Padmasambhavas around was not so much about the number of them, but rather about the point that there seems to be a certain level of, well, let's call it "arbitrariness" to it.
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Malcolm wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:05 pm
Motova wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:19 am Apparently so is Sogyal Lakar. :shrug:
Recognized by his mother, but not really enthroned, or recognized by anyone else as such.
I see, thank you.

I'm very happy to have received Guru Rinpoche empowerment from Guru Rinpoche. My first Guru was Guru Rinpoche. :smile:
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fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:10 pm
yan kong wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:48 pm
fckw wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:19 amIn Tibet they don't seem to have a problem to have several Padmasambhavas around.
Why would they? It's a perfectly orthodox opinion to hold.
You know, for any odd reason in Tibet tulkus are or were born in rich and influential families with much higher probability than in poor and not so influential ones. Now, perhaps tulkus generally just seem to have an unexplained preference to be born in rich and influential families? Or it's their fortunate karma?

Or then, perhaps the explanation is by far less romantic.

Hence: My point of having several Padmasambhavas around was not so much about the number of them, but rather about the point that there seems to be a certain level of, well, let's call it "arbitrariness" to it.
Tulkus are recognized in all kinds of families.
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Motova wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:35 pm Practicing Dharma requires a lot of leisure time, wealth means more leisure time.
Yes, indeed. But that wealth will be cashable only if one has renunciation. :smile:
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