How to discover tibetan buddhism?

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by Coëmgenu » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:38 pm

If you want to discover Tibetan Buddhism, just be a British man in the 1800s.
如無為、如是難見、不動、不屈、不死、無漏、覆蔭、洲渚、濟渡、依止、擁護、不流轉、離熾焰、離燒然、流通、清涼、微妙、安隱、無病、無所有、涅槃。
Like this is the uncreated, like this is that which is difficult to realize, with no moving, no bending, no dying. Utterly lacking secretions and smothered in the dark, it is the island shore. Where there is ferrying, it is the crossing. It is dependency's ceasing, it is the end of circulating transmissions. It is the exhaustion of the flame, it is the ending of the burning. Flowing openly, pure and cool, with secret subtlety, and calm occultation, lacking ailment, lacking owning, nirvāṇa.
Asaṁskṛtadharmasūtra, Sermon on the Uncreated Phenomenon, T99.224b7, Saṁyuktāgama 890

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by fornoxe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:44 pm

:juggling:

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by kirtu » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:55 pm

fornoxe wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:38 pm
I dont know where I will. I will go where I will find monastery where I can stay and the tradition inspire me. :smile:

Le monastère de Sonada près de Darjeeling par exemple pourrait etre une début.
Oh ok. And you're right - Samdrup Darjay Choling Monastery in Sonada where the current Kalu Rinpoche was enthroned (which makes sense since the last Kalu was the Shangpa lineage holder, followed by Bokar Rinpoche). The current Kalu Rinpoche used to live in Paris (I'm not sure if he is still mostly there or not).

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by fornoxe » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:05 pm

In TB contrary to theravada,the main subject is to fibd the good master because the relationship is very strong?

I dont want someone famous. Theravada or TB I want an ascetic master hidden in the forest (or moutain).

The shangpa monastery is not really a good idea for me. Its was an exemple. But the big one could be a good source of information.

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by kirtu » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:19 pm

So as a result of Kalu Rinpoche and Bokar Rinpoche's activities the Shangpa lineage has been institutionally restored.

Shangpa Resource Center - Heirs of Kalu RInpoche

And they have several teachers here in the west. Assuming that you are in western Europe or Canada you have a lot of options for studying Tibetan Buddhism actually.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by kirtu » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:04 am

fornoxe wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:44 pm
Can you explain if you want about the difference in terms of the ultimate view of mind? Sound interresting :smile:
Basically in terms of the classic presentation of philosophy:
Fondamentalement, en termes de présentation classique de la philosophie:

The Four Buddhist Tenet Systems Regarding Illusion

Les quatre systèmes de pensée bouddhique sur le thème de l’illusion

although this is not directly dealing with the nature of mind but is sort of essential as a start.
bien que cela ne soit pas directement lié à la nature de l'esprit, il est essentiel de commencer.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by kirtu » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:41 am

fornoxe wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:23 am
Thank you everyone!
I will like that carefully! Now i am on my phone I will reply next week with new things to ask.

Right now,I feel a big gap between theravada and tiberan buddhism. Especially about tantra. Meditation technic/great tool in TB (tibetan buddhism thats right?).
In terms of tenets (and this does not exist in French on Berzin's site but Google Translate would probably render it okay; it is there in Italian and Spanish as well as German and several other languages) : Tenets/philosophical difference between Theravada and Tibetan Buddhism

There are many other differences as well but basically the Therevada classically aims at individual liberation within seven lifetimes (although it too has a Bodhisattva path) while the Mahayana aims at the eventual liberation (after eons and eons) of all beings throughout the universe while the Vajrayana, of which Tibetan Buddhism is an example, aims at the liberation of all beings as quickly as possible beginning with the attainment of Buddhahood in this very body.

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Kirt's Tibetan Translation Notes

"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Re: How to discover tibetan buddhism?

Post by fornoxe » Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Thank you for all this post. I will look that. Right now I am pretty busy (leaving to Sri Lanka) but I will take care soon about your links :sage:

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