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New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:11 pm
by WeiHan
Sharing the latest rainbowbody manifestation. A low profile Dzogchen practitioner.
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Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:12 pm
by WeiHan
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Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:12 pm
by WeiHan
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Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:17 pm
by Tata1
Where?

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:46 pm
by WeiHan
Sichuan, Ganzi.

I think it is the first time we see photo with the head and partial body of a shrunken rainbowbody that is still in Tukdam. This yogi has chosen to be naked, only covered with a monk robe when he entered tukdam.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:59 pm
by PeterC
Who is it?

Looks a lot like the famous Khenpo Munsel

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:07 pm
by WeiHan
PeterC wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:59 pm
Who is it?

Looks a lot like the famous Khenpo Munsel
Anonymous yogi. I hope it is not a photo hoax. The monk with spectacle in the first photo is Lodro Ranse (rabsel?) Rinpoche.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
by TharpaChodron
So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:05 pm
by Miroku
TharpaChodron wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
You dissolve into light after death. Shrinking is so called small rainbow body, which is not complete rainbow body.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:48 pm
by WeiHan
The Rinpoche in spectacle in the first photo is him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUf66WxcEXc

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
by Fa Dao
TharpaChodron wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:18 pm
by Thomas Amundsen
Fa Dao wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
TharpaChodron wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.
AFAIK when the body only shrinks and doesn't dissolve to the point of hair and nails, this is the atomic body, which is a result of Trekcho practice. This is stated in Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche's teachings on Longchenpa's tshig don mdzod.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:38 pm
by 明安 Myoan
What's the difference from the practitioner's side between small and complete rainbow body? Is it degree of realization? Does one who achieves small rainbow body go to Dewachen since they didn't revert to light completely?

Apologies for the ignorance of my questions.

Bows and mudita for this monk :heart:
May the merits of such attainments bring relief and delight to beings.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:42 pm
by Norwegian
Monlam Tharchin wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:38 pm
What's the difference from the practitioner's side between small and complete rainbow body? Is it degree of realization? Does one who achieves small rainbow body go to Dewachen since they didn't revert to light completely?

Apologies for the ignorance of my questions.

Bows and mudita for this monk :heart:
May the merits of such attainments bring relief and delight to beings.
In Dzogchen, rainbow body is a sign (rtags) that total Buddhahood - the fruit - has been realized. Such a practitioner does not go to any kind of pureland or nirmanakaya Buddhafield, because he or she is a total Buddha.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 pm
by Karma_Yeshe
I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:35 pm
by Grigoris
Karma_Yeshe wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 pm
I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.
Having commented, although you did not want to comment, do you feel better now?

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:09 am
by Fa Dao
Thomas Amundsen wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:18 pm
Fa Dao wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
TharpaChodron wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
So, silly question, when you achieve rainbow body, you shrink down and get really small??? How does that work?
Not a silly question...after the breath etc has stopped the body slowly reverts back to the elements and then into light leaving only the hair and nails behind. As was said previously this is called small rainbow body. The great transference is where the practitioner doesn't actually go through the dying process and very quickly reverts back to the elements/light.
AFAIK when the body only shrinks and doesn't dissolve to the point of hair and nails, this is the atomic body, which is a result of Trekcho practice. This is stated in Khenpo Namdrol Rinpoche's teachings on Longchenpa's tshig don mdzod.
Cool...didnt know about that one...thanks for the info

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:27 am
by ford_truckin
Karma_Yeshe wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:15 pm
I don't want to comment on the current situation, but you should really take every photo shown nowadays with a grain of salt, to say the least.
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Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:14 am
by 明安 Myoan
Isn't that like telling a hungry person that eating breakfast is important?
It's technically true, but the timing of the advice shows an assumption more than it answers a need :shrug:

Re: New Rainbowbody Manifestation

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:56 am
by WeiHan
The Tukdam state apparently only started a few days ago from 16th Dec.