DOUBLE ENDED PHURBA?

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DOUBLE ENDED PHURBA?

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What is the symbolism behind the double end? I have lots of information on phurbas but don't recall any explanation of this type. I'll have a stab (awful pun) and guess it is to do with destroying internal and external obstructions?
Some describe them as a dorje - but with phurba blades?
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Mantrik wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:08 pm What is the symbolism behind the double end? I have lots of information on phurbas but don't recall any explanation of this type. I'll have a stab (awful pun) and guess it is to do with destroying internal and external obstructions?
Some describe them as a dorje - but with phurba blades?
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It is not a double ended phurba, it is a single pointed vajra, used in Shingon.


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Malcolm wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:13 pm
Mantrik wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:08 pm What is the symbolism behind the double end? I have lots of information on phurbas but don't recall any explanation of this type. I'll have a stab (awful pun) and guess it is to do with destroying internal and external obstructions?
Some describe them as a dorje - but with phurba blades?
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It is not a double ended phurba, it is a single pointed vajra, used in Shingon.


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Ah, thank you. :)
It was the triangular blade and origin being Nepal which led me to thinking phurba.
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there are thangkas of the 84 mahasiddhas where lakshminkara has a one-pointed vajra in her hand..... so maybe used not only in shingon!
i think you can find it at himalayan- art ressources
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lelopa wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:16 pm there are thangkas of the 84 mahasiddhas where lakshminkara has a one-pointed vajra in her hand..... so maybe used not only in shingon!
i think you can find it at himalayan- art ressources
One even finds one pointed vajras in Tibetan Buddhism, but they are most commonly seen in Shingon and Tendai rites.
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Malcolm wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:23 pm
lelopa wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:16 pm there are thangkas of the 84 mahasiddhas where lakshminkara has a one-pointed vajra in her hand..... so maybe used not only in shingon!
i think you can find it at himalayan- art ressources
One even finds one pointed vajras in Tibetan Buddhism, but they are most commonly seen in Shingon and Tendai rites.
yes,
the first ones i saw in japanese ninpo martian arts magazines :D
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lelopa wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:21 pmyes,
the first ones i saw in japanese ninpo martian arts magazines :D
Well, the open vajra (and obviously the one pointed vajra) is an actual weapon.

Like Vishnu's Chakra.

Like Mahakala's danda.

Etc..

And watch out for those martian arts practitioners, they just beam down out of space and space ray you when you least expect it! Those nasty green little bastards! :smile:
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Grigoris wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:25 pm
lelopa wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:21 pmyes,
the first ones i saw in japanese ninpo martian arts magazines :D
Well, the open vajra (and obviously the one pointed vajra) is an actual weapon.

Like Vishnu's Chakra.

Like Mahakala's danda.

Etc..

And watch out for those martian arts practitioners, they just beam down out of space and space ray you when you least expect it! Those nasty green little bastards! :smile:
Damn. I've only seen them used in marital arts! :emb:
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