javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:37 pm
heart wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:45 am
javier.espinoza.t wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:55 pm
it depends. if you want a particular TB sang practice, you should ask a TB teacher.
Sang offering is an aborigen thing, a tibetan practice, and afaik it doesn't have roots in buddhadharma. Maybe you can just make aromatic smoke and offer it.
Just because they haven't found any signs of smoke offering in India it isn't the same as saying it is a Tibetan thing. Could have come from somewhere else like Anuyoga. You know an other practice that they didn't find (yet) in India? Dzogchen. So I guess you don't think Dzogchen is based in Buddha dharma either?
Sang is solid Buddha dharma, it is obvious when you read the texts. Just like water offering, flower offering, light offering and so on.
it was a bön practice.
The Sang practice that we do in Buddhism is coming from Guru Rinpoche.
Yes the Bonpos might have had their own practice of Sang, however it entered into Buddhism through the enlightened activities of Guru Rinpoche, and if Guru Rinpoche isn't a Buddhist, then I don't know who is.
It is like the traditional offerings we do, just because Hindus also offer Lamps doesn't mean when enlightened masters taught Light offerings they are not Buddhist.
The King had become ill due to obscuration (drip) because a queen of his had an affair with a minister, she became pregnant and aborted the baby and hid the body which was in an area that disturbed a powerful spirit.
The King became very ill, and no one had been able to cure him (I believe this included attempts by Bonpo priests) , so he pleaded with Guru Rinpoche, Guru Rinpoche told him that he would tell him the source of his illness if he promised not to punish the individual. So, he told him, and taught him the practice of Sang, which completely healed him.
So we as Buddhists practice Sang, because Guru Rinpoche has introduced the practice. "Guru Rinpoche sang" I believe is this particular sang.
Of course other Sang practices such as Riwo Sang Cho are Terma, and I hope you certainly aren't implying that a Terma doesn't have a Buddhist root.
as Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche said ( a current rebirth of the Terton Lhatsun namkha jigme who revealed the Riwo sang cho) that the language of Riwo Sang Cho is thoroughly Dzogpachenpo.
Also, Khenpo Shenga has a commentary on the Sang which reads as a philosophical commentary on the dharma, so to say Sang has no roots in Buddhism is thoroughly absurd.
Sang practice has Refuge, Bodhichitta, the offerings to the Three jewels and Buddha's are specifically mentioned, and in the section post om ah hung there is a specific confession related to our Buddhist vows, and Tantric Samayas.
It is one of the most crucial practices in the Vajrayana tradition, and Dudjom Rinpoche recommended doing sang daily, and This master too has composed Sang liturgies in addition to Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, and many others.