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Phowa Benefits

Post by Konchog1 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:14 am

What are the benefits of Phowa (if any) besides rebirth in Dewachen?
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"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Josef » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:19 am

Dharmakaya phowa.
Kye ma!
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Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Virgo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:23 am

Nangwa wrote:Dharmakaya phowa.
I like your style. :D

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Post by Josef » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:27 am

Virgo wrote:
Nangwa wrote:Dharmakaya phowa.
I like your style. :D

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Thats just how I roll.
Kye ma!
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Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Virgo » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:36 am

Nangwa wrote:
Virgo wrote:
Nangwa wrote:Dharmakaya phowa.
I like your style. :D

Kevin
Thats just how I roll.
:twothumbsup:

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Post by Mr. G » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:41 am

Nangwa wrote:Dharmakaya phowa.
:thumbsup:
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Post by TenzinDorje » Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:11 pm

Konchog1 wrote:What are the benefits of Phowa (if any) besides rebirth in Dewachen?
Lama Dawa held a boundaried Phowa retreat on the Saraswati Bhawan land last summer. It was my first time and it was excellent.

During the practice sessions, a pack of coyotes came to the boundaries and howled...

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Jangchup Donden » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:54 pm

Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche holds yearly phowa retreats at the columbarium at his retreat center. So I'd assume there are also benefits for the dead within the columbarium.

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Konchog1 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:35 am

The Jag Tshug Ma text says it dispels obstacles to life but that's a given since the text including Amitayus practice. The text also cites Rechunga who said that one will have a peaceful death. I'll keep looking.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by kirtu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:29 am

Konchog1 wrote:The Jag Tshug Ma text says it dispels obstacles to life but that's a given since the text including Amitayus practice. The text also cites Rechunga who said that one will have a peaceful death. I'll keep looking.
Powa also generates bliss and one can attain enlightenment on the basis of powa practice before death.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Konchog1 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:40 am

Still looking around. Regular Phowa practice or the simple chanting of the Phowa prayer with the seed syllable clears obstacles especially spirit obstacles.
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Mandarava » Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:58 am

But if done incorrectly can shorten life or so i have heard?
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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by kirtu » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:05 pm

Mandarava wrote:But if done incorrectly can shorten life or so i have heard?
Which is why powa includes long life practice at the end. However the Drikung and perhaps others dispute that powa shortens life.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche.

"Only you can make your mind beautiful."
HH Chetsang Rinpoche

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Post by Mr. G » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:11 pm

kirtu wrote:However the Drikung and perhaps others dispute that powa shortens life.
Yup. Sakya's Naropa's Khechari Phowa doesn't shorten life. :smile:
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Post by pemachophel » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:03 pm

In the colophon to Tulku Sang-ngak's version of the Longchen Nyingthig Phowa, it says that the practice definitely does not shorten life but actually lengthens life because it includes Amitayus practice.

It is also said and is my experience as well that, because Phowa leads the lung and, therefore, mind into the central channel, it helps deepen and stabilize nonconceptual meditation.
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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Willy » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:28 pm

I think the shorter life idea comes from doing Phowa for others, not the practice itself. It's beneficial for everyone if the practitioner has a strong connection to the newly departed- and the dead person should have an interest in Buddhism.

But I have heard a story about a woman who was doing phowa for people in the weekly obituaries, with no connection to them, and that she died after a few years of doing that.

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Konchog1 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:37 am

Willy wrote:I think the shorter life idea comes from doing Phowa for others, not the practice itself. It's beneficial for everyone if the practitioner has a strong connection to the newly departed- and the dead person should have an interest in Buddhism.

But I have heard a story about a woman who was doing phowa for people in the weekly obituaries, with no connection to them, and that she died after a few years of doing that.
Huh, I wonder why?
Equanimity is the ground. Love is the moisture. Compassion is the seed. Bodhicitta is the result.

-Paraphrase of Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Tsephel citing the Guhyasamaja Tantra

"All memories and thoughts are the union of emptiness and knowing, the Mind.
Without attachment, self-liberating, like a snake in a knot.
Through the qualities of meditating in that way,
Mental obscurations are purified and the dharmakaya is attained."

-Ra Lotsawa, All-pervading Melodious Drumbeats

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Post by Willy » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:47 pm

Konchog1 wrote:
Willy wrote:I think the shorter life idea comes from doing Phowa for others, not the practice itself. It's beneficial for everyone if the practitioner has a strong connection to the newly departed- and the dead person should have an interest in Buddhism.

But I have heard a story about a woman who was doing phowa for people in the weekly obituaries, with no connection to them, and that she died after a few years of doing that.
Huh, I wonder why?
After having done a phowa course and received the outer, inner and secret signs - you can do phowa for others when they die. Just clarifying that part first, probably everybody knows this already.

When doing phowa for others, you are in a way taking them on your back. If they have a connection to Amitabha and an interest in phowa and a connection to you - then it all goes smoothly. But if you do phowa for someone who wants to go to Jesus and no connection - then you're kind of taking on their karma, and for no reason, no benefit to anyone.

I've also heard it can shorten your life to teach the phowa practice to too many students. Although Lama Ole Nydhal has taught phowa successfully to nearly 75K people and he's 70 years old and strong as ever...

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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Pero » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:52 pm

Willy wrote:then you're kind of taking on their karma...
Not possible.
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Re: Phowa Benefits

Post by Blue Garuda » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:15 pm

Phowa performed for the Dying may shorten life if the person is not actually dying.

Aside from the benefits for the Deceased in terms of entering a Pure Land, there are huge benefits for others who believe in it:

The feeling of the 'presence' of the dead being ends and relatives may finally feel that they have 'moved on'.

In addition, there is great comfort for them in the belief that the consciousness of the deceased has a fortunate rebirth, rather than a death or remaining in the Bardo.

I perform several Phowa rituals a week and in my experience relatives know that the deceased has moved on from the Bardo at the time when I perform that ritual, even if they are in a different time zone. I don't tell them when the ritual will be performed, but they contact me and tell me that they know when it has been performed.

As an aside, my main practice is that of ritual for others. Other may become great teachers etc.
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