Hanuman in Vajrayana

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Re: Hanuman in Vajrayana

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:26 pm

Perhaps this is getting off topic and maybe we could start a new thread, but I am also very interested in the idea of local protectors. Does anyone have any more stories of lamas recognizing their presence outside of Tibet?
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Re: Hanuman in Vajrayana

Postby philji » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:53 pm

pemachophel wrote:Philji,

Yes, various Tibetan Lamas have identified various local Protectors here in the U.S. Lama Dawa has identified the Goddess of the Mississippi and composed an offering ceremony to Her. Kusum Lingpa identified at least one Protector of Rigdzin Ling/Chagdud Gompa in northern CA and they do a Protectors prayer to that Deity written by Kusum Lingpa. And Tulku Sang-ngag has identified the/a Deity associated with Mt. Shasta. These are the ones I can think of right off the top of my head.

Many years ago, I was traveling with a family of Lamas in Maine. One night we camped in the woods below Mt. Katadin and did chod. The next day I was explaining that the local indigenous people believed their God(s) lived on top of that mountain. One of the Lamas said that they already knew that since those Deities had attended the previous evening's chod.

Recently, Lama Dawa was visiting northern Colorado. He was pointed out the Indian Peaks west of Boulder. He said that, if these were in Nepal, they'd be called the Five Sisters (i.e., Tsheringma and Her four Sisters). Personally, I took that to mean that we could/should (?) consider the Indian Peaks to be supports for Tshering Ched-nga.

Would love to see texts containing such prayers if anyone has a copy...
Sorry if I'm rambling.

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Re: Hanuman in Vajrayana

Postby Malcolm » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:54 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:Perhaps this is getting off topic and maybe we could start a new thread, but I am also very interested in the idea of local protectors. Does anyone have any more stories of lamas recognizing their presence outside of Tibet?


It is not really necessary to give them names. Bhumipatis is the general designation.
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Re: Hanuman in Vajrayana

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:03 pm

Malcolm wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:Perhaps this is getting off topic and maybe we could start a new thread, but I am also very interested in the idea of local protectors. Does anyone have any more stories of lamas recognizing their presence outside of Tibet?


It is not really necessary to give them names. Bhumipatis is the general designation.

Well, I'm not particularly interested in their names, but thanks for the information.
Anyway, reddust started a thread on this topic, http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=15036,
so anyone who is interested can continue the conversation over there.
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Re: Hanuman in Vajrayana

Postby Kunga » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:26 am

What Malcolm said.

There is a torma offering to the bhumipatis which is pretty standard across traditions to the best of my understanding. At least, the Sakyapas and Gelugpas use the same one.


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