SNOWLION MERGES WITH SHAMBHALA PUBLICATIONS

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Post by LunaRoja » Fri May 11, 2012 10:37 pm

WOW!!!!

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http://www.shambhala.com/snowlion" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Fri May 11, 2012 11:47 pm

One hopes this bodes well for Dharma publishing. Shambhala has been peddling a lot of non-Dharma over the past few years, whereas Snow Lion hewed more to the Dharma in its offerings.

We shall see...
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Post by conebeckham » Sat May 12, 2012 12:07 am

Ditto that, Will. Snow Lion has done a great service for true Dharma translations, especially in the last twenty years...one hopes they will continue, and not veer too far off course into areas that Shambhala pubs. has been mining for some time now.....
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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 12:19 am

It bodes well in certain areas.
Those being that now those SL texts will actually get proper editorial attention as well as design attention, making a much better product.
The bad news is that this acquisition is probably going to serve as the "street cred" wing of Shambhala so they can dump the rest of their resources into flaky spiritual nonsense.
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Post by LunaRoja » Sat May 12, 2012 12:23 am

My wish would have been for Shambhala to merge into Snowlion, but it looks like Shambhala has the money. On a plus they now have free shipping for orders over $35.

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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 12:24 am

LunaRoja wrote:My wish would have been for Shambhala to merge into Snowlion, but it looks like Shambhala has the money. On a plus they now have free shipping for orders over $35.
Snow Lion has been trying to sell/merge for years.
The publisher/distributor model is not financially sustainable.
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Post by justsit » Sat May 12, 2012 12:28 am

This might be a good time to encourage practitioners to purchase books and other items from publishers who specialize in Dharma items. We may save a few cents or even dollars buying on Amazon or eBay, but as mentioned, the "Buddhist" publishers also help promote translations, etc., and support Dharma in ways secular sellers do not.

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Post by kirtu » Sat May 12, 2012 12:59 am

Snow Lion served the Buddhist community very well. They should have published their own books in ebook format starting at least two years ago.

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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 1:03 am

kirtu wrote:Snow Lion served the Buddhist community very well. They should have published their own books in ebook format starting at least two years ago.

Kirt
They have had quite a few ebooks for a while.
They actually got into the ebook scene early compared to Wisdom at least.
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Post by kirtu » Sat May 12, 2012 1:11 am

Nangwa wrote:
kirtu wrote:Snow Lion served the Buddhist community very well. They should have published their own books in ebook format starting at least two years ago.

Kirt
They have had quite a few ebooks for a while.
They actually got into the ebook scene early compared to Wisdom at least.
Which were not available directly from their website.

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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 1:19 am

kirtu wrote:
Nangwa wrote:
kirtu wrote:Snow Lion served the Buddhist community very well. They should have published their own books in ebook format starting at least two years ago.

Kirt
They have had quite a few ebooks for a while.
They actually got into the ebook scene early compared to Wisdom at least.
Which were not available directly from their website.

Kirt
That is actually really hard to do, as well as very expensive.
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Post by kirtu » Sat May 12, 2012 1:27 am

Nangwa wrote:
kirtu wrote:
Nangwa wrote: They have had quite a few ebooks for a while.
They actually got into the ebook scene early compared to Wisdom at least.
Which were not available directly from their website.

Kirt
That is actually really hard to do, as well as very expensive.
No it's not, at least not in mobi format. I'm writing a book now and have had a mobi format exemplar at every step (because this will only be a ebook to begin with) and it hasn't cost me anything (maybe there are licensing issues that I'm unaware of).

Granted that their layouts will be much more complex and that might have been a problem but they could have made that a major effort for their Tsadra series. As it is I have to use Amazon to buy their ebooks.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 1:33 am

kirtu wrote:
No it's not, at least not in mobi format. I'm writing a book now and have had a mobi format exemplar at every step (because this will only be a ebook to begin with) and it hasn't cost me anything (maybe there are licensing issues that I'm unaware of).

Granted that their layouts will be much more complex and that might have been a problem but they could have made that a major effort for their Tsadra series. As it is I have to use Amazon to buy their ebooks.

Kirt
When I worked for a major Dharma publishing house we could not find any solution to convert and sell our own ebooks via our website that was not wildly cost prohibitive.
Maybe it's different now but two years ago there was absolutely no way for us to afford to do this and we were much more profitable than SL.
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Post by kirtu » Sat May 12, 2012 4:23 am

It's unfortunate but I wish them all well. It must have been a very difficult decision. Snow Lion also offered rupas, thangkas, prayer flags, music, mandalas and many items that facilitate ritual practice.

Still, we are living in a golden age of Dharma transmission out of Asia.

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"Even if you practice only for an hour a day with faith and inspiration, good qualities will steadily increase. Regular practice makes it easy to transform your mind. From seeing only relative truth, you will eventually reach a profound certainty in the meaning of absolute truth."
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Post by Greg » Sat May 12, 2012 4:36 am

Nangwa wrote:It bodes well in certain areas.
Those being that now those SL texts will actually get proper editorial attention as well as design attention, making a much better product.
The bad news is that this acquisition is probably going to serve as the "street cred" wing of Shambhala so they can dump the rest of their resources into flaky spiritual nonsense.
You think the editorial and design wasn't good? I think they did a good job. I don't see what Shambhala brings to the table, except maybe subsidies from all the pop-psych new age garbage they publish.

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Post by Josef » Sat May 12, 2012 4:57 am

Greg wrote:
Nangwa wrote:It bodes well in certain areas.
Those being that now those SL texts will actually get proper editorial attention as well as design attention, making a much better product.
The bad news is that this acquisition is probably going to serve as the "street cred" wing of Shambhala so they can dump the rest of their resources into flaky spiritual nonsense.
You think the editorial and design wasn't good?
Not good at all.
From a professional standpoint their internal and external design was very amateurish and the editing was generally poorly organized.
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Post by uslic001 » Sun May 13, 2012 3:16 am

I am sad to see Snow Lion merge with Shambhala as they had different methods to spreading the dharma and I preferred Snow Lion.

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Post by Grigoris » Sun May 13, 2012 9:34 am

I would have been much happier if they had merged with Wisdom Publications. Oh well...
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Post by Jnana » Sun May 13, 2012 10:13 am

Greg wrote:I don't see what Shambhala brings to the table, except maybe subsidies from all the pop-psych new age garbage they publish.
It's somewhat unfortunate, but it's probably that pop stuff that brings in the $$$.

Meanwhile, there are a number of important Indian Mahāyāna texts and commentaries that still haven't been translated and/or published by anyone.... :thinking: Although the model being used by 84000 is probably better suited for these types of hardcore texts that have little pop value.

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Post by Lingpupa » Sun May 13, 2012 3:20 pm

How sad, how sad. I've watched them since the beginning, and been amazed by what they have managed both to sell and to publish. Will the Shambhala version ever recapture their beautiful, enthusiastic, open-minded spirit? I hope so, but the signs are not good so far. Still, perhaps the work of integrating the databases has not been completed yet, so let's not lose hope.
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