Bodhisattvabhumi (Tsadra) Hardcover – March 8, 2016 by Asanga (Author), Artemus B. Engle (Translator)

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Bodhisattvabhumi (Tsadra) Hardcover – March 8, 2016 by Asanga (Author), Artemus B. Engle (Translator)

Post by Leo Rivers » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:20 pm

With the 1st [mundane] half of the Sravaka Pathalready fully explicated a good snapshot of pre-rupture Buddhism is finally available. It is interesting the whole of the Bodhi Path is slipped conceptually like a note into the pocket of "What does he Buddha know?"

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The Bodhisattva Path to Unsurpassed Enlightenment: A Complete Translation of the Bodhisattvabhumi :reading: :reading: :reading: (Tsadra) Hardcover – March 8, 2016
by Asanga (Author), Artemus B. Engle (Translator)
Arya Asanga, famous for having been the conduit through which the teachings contained in the Five Texts of Maitreya were received and recorded, is also considered to be the author in his own right of several other foundational works of Yogācāra philosophy.
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"Art Engle's translation of Asaṇga's monumental Bodhisattva Stage is a major work of excellent scholarship—presented in a way that is also useful to practitioners. It is truly impressive and remarkable, the fine job he has done with this seminal and rather difficult work. Anyone who aspires to follow the way of the bodhisattva, the whole-hearted altruist who undertakes the evolutionary path through countless lives toward the perfectly blissful enlightenment of buddhahood, is well-advised to study this work in all its sparkling detail. I strongly recommend this wonderful jewel of a work." Robert A. F. Thurman Jey Tsong Khapa Professor of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies, Columbia University President, Tibet House US
About the Author
ASANGA was a fourth-century Indian adept and philosopher, author of the foundational works of the Yogācāra school of Buddhist philosophy. ARTEMUS B. ENGLE received a PhD in Buddhist studies from the University of Wisconsin and has studied Tibetan Buddhism for more than forty years. He teaches Tibetan language and Buddhist doctrine at the Mahayana Sutra and Tantra Center in Howell, New Jersey, and has published numerous translations of works by Indian and Tibetan masters. He has been a Tsadra Foundation Fellow since 2005.

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Series: Tsadra
Hardcover: 800 pages
Publisher: Snow Lion (March 8, 2016)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1559394293
ISBN-13: 978-1559394291
Product Dimensions: 6.2 x 1.9 x 9.3 inches

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:57 pm

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Post by Malcolm » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:52 pm

It's quite good. I have a copy.
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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by WuMing » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:07 pm

Thank you, Malcolm, for your comment! That's very much appreciated!
今以佛眼觀之佛與眾生同住解脫之床。無此無彼無二平等。
Now, observing with the eye of the Buddha, both the Buddha and ordinary beings are in the same liberated state. There is neither this nor that: there is only non-duality and identity.
- 空海 Kūkai in Unjigi 吽字義 The Meaning of the Letter Hūṃ
- Kūkai on the Philosophy of Language by Takagi Shingen and Dreitlein Eijō
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Śrī Singha said to Padmasambhava:
Since buddhas and sentient beings are inseparable and the same, it is necessary to respect all sentient beings as being on the same level with the buddhas. Can you?
- translated by Malcolm N. Smith

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:10 am

Malcolm,

Have my copy now and already am quibbling. On the page before the Introduction is a Tibetan verse from Je Rinpoche that mentions Buddha, Ajita and Asanga. The last line translates as "I pray for blessings to these three..."

Who or what would send blessings to those three? Should the 'to' be 'of' or 'from'?
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Post by Malcolm » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:23 am

Nicholas Weeks wrote:Malcolm,

Have my copy now and already am quibbling. On the page before the Introduction is a Tibetan verse from Je Rinpoche that mentions Buddha, Ajita and Asanga. The last line translates as "I pray for blessings to these three..."

Who or what would send blessings to those three? Should the 'to' be 'of' or 'from'?
He might have worded it a little better, "I pray to these three for blessings..."

A seriously minor quibble.
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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:49 am

Now I get it - thankful bows Malcolm! :bow:
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:51 pm

Only finished Engle’s Introduction and dipped a bit into the rest.

An essential work. It is almost a ‘meaning commentary’ on the ‘root text’ of Ajita’s Mahayanasutralamkara. Often covering the same topics in the same order, but more thoroughly and clearly. The Ten Grounds Sutra is summarized in Book II, ch. 4, the ‘Pleasurable States’. That section plus many other places the Grounds are explicated.
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:58 pm

A splendid work and essential for seeing the breadth and depth of living as a bodhisattva.

No PDF or e-book versions yet, so if anyone knows of a source let us all know.
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:40 pm

Here is Robert Thurman in his Intro to the sutralamkara (xxii-xxiii) giving the parallels between the two texts:
??

The Mahayana portion of the YBh, the Stages of Bodhisattva Practice
(Bodhisattvabhümi
— BBh), closely parallels the structure of the MSA and can
very plausibly be considered Asanga's own "meaning commentary" (Tib. don grel)
on the MSA. In fact, the Bodhisattva Stages follows the Literature so closely that it
was considered by Chinese Buddhist scholars to have been authored by Maitreya
himself. These parallels are shown in the following table:

MSA Udhikära) BBh (patala)
1. Authenticity of Mahayana -----
2. Taking Refuge -----
3. Gene 1. Gene
4. Spiritual Conception 2. Spiritual Conception
5. Practice 3. Self-interest and Altruism
6. Truth 4. Meaning of Truth
7. Power 5. Power
8. Maturity 6. Maturity
9. Enlightenment 7. Enlightenment
10. Faith 8. Faith
11. Dharma Quest Dharma Quest
12. Teaching Teaching
13. Practice Practice
14. Advice and Instruction Genuine Instruction
15. Artful Evolutionary Action Artfulness
16. Transcendences [1-17] 9. Generosity
Justice 10. Justice
Patience 11. Patience
Enterprise 12. Enterprise
Contemplation 13. Contemplation
Wisdom 14. Wisdom
Social Graces [72-79] 15. Social Graces
17. Measure of Worship and Service 16. Measure of Worship and Service
18. Enlightenment Accessory 17. Enlightenment Accessory
19. Excellence 18. Excellence
20-21. Signs of Practice and Attainment 19. Bodhisattva signs
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:15 am

Engle's Introduction devotes a few pages to summarizing a great work that one hopes will be translated!!

Wonder how large a text it is?

Thuken Losang Chokyi Nyima (1737-1802) (aka Thuken Dharma Vajra) wrote The Sun That Illuminates the Excellent Path of the Great Vehicle. It explains how to carry out the combined study and practice of the bodhisattvabhumi and the mahayanasutralamkara.
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Post by ratna » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:24 am

Nicholas Weeks wrote: Wonder how large a text it is?
About sixty pages.

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:45 pm

ratna wrote:
Nicholas Weeks wrote: Wonder how large a text it is?
About sixty pages.
A snap for you to translate into English, by next week, eh? :applause:
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:54 pm

Only about 100 pages into it, but do have one grumble. Engle has many bracketed words intended to clarify a passage, which many of them do. But just as many seem unneeded and clutter up clear parts of the root text.
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:35 am

Regarding this [topic], what is a bodhisattva’s knowledge of the world? Here a bodhisattva gains, in relation to the world that consists of sentient beings, the following type of true realization.

“Alas, this world is in a state of calamity! That is to say, although they take birth, age, die, fall [from a higher state to a lower one] and enter [states of misfortune], sentient beings still do not correctly discover the deliverance that lies beyond old age and death.”

Moreover, [a bodhisattva] gains a true realization of an era in which the degeneracies possessed by the world of beings are exceedingly great, as well as an era that is free of the degeneracies and one in which the degeneracies are not exceedingly great...

For instance, nowadays the life spans of humans are short; an individual who lives a long time lives for [at most around] a hundred years. For instance, nowadays beings to a large extent do not honor their mothers, do not honor their fathers, do not honor spiritual asceticism, do not honor the position of brahmins, do not respect family elders, do not do what is advantageous, do not do what ought to be done, are not fearful of what is objectionable in relation to this world or the next world, do not practice generosity, do not carry out meritorious acts, do not observe the [one-day] fasting observance, and do not abide in morality after having accepted it. For instance, nowadays it is evident that [beings] are attached to wickedness and attached to dishonest ways, and they become acquainted with many kinds of evil, nonvirtuous activities related to such improper conduct as taking up a weapon, taking up a staff, strife, quarreling, discord, arguing, guile, deception, dishonesty, and lying.
[pp 419-20]

Asanga tightly weaves the links of karma, so this quote is not just 'evil will always be with us'. It shows the web of self-induced obstacles that keep us from 'correctly discovering' the way to liberation.
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