The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

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The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by Kim O'Hara » Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:53 am

At last someone has called out this nasty rubbish for what it is.
The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

...Stories like this keep popping up on Twitter like zits on a prepubescent forehead: The sunshiney announcement about the GoFundMe for the guy with leukemia who can’t pay for his own medical costs. (He is employed by an organization whose owner has a net worth of $5.2 billion.) The dad who works three jobs to support his family saving up to buy his 14-year-old daughter a dress for an eighth grade dance. The college student who ran 20 miles to work after his car broke down and whose boss rewarded him for this effort by giving him his own car.

Do you get a sinking feeling when you read these stories? This feeling like, while of course you are impressed by the tenacity and generosity on display, you still want to vomit?

...what might be the most unsettling element of the feel-good feel-bad story: The implicit moral tends to be that, rather than fight for a society that is more empathetic and humane, everyone just needs to be more self-sacrificing, and then all our problems will be solved. ...

In the feel-good feel-bad story, irrefutable proof of an institutional failure is sold as a celebration of individual triumph. And it’s the desperate, cloying attempts to trumpet the latter as a means of obscuring the former that gives these pieces their distinct, acrid aftertaste.
:reading: https://thinkprogress.org/do-the-imposs ... 38b4a4953/

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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by SonamTashi » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:06 am

Oh yeah, perseverance porn. The ultimately logical conclusion of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" Capitalist ideology
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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by FiveSkandhas » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:31 am

Don’t mix religion and politics or you will get a nasty hangover...
That said, I suppose this sad topic is appropriate for this section of the board?

It’s a good article, but so sad on every level, from the stories themselves to the human response of “feel good feel bad”...what else can I say but I can’t wait until all beings are liberated from samsara.

May all be well. Each and every one.

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Post by Queequeg » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:06 pm

FiveSkandhas wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:31 am
Don’t mix religion and politics or you will get a nasty hangover...
That said, I suppose this sad topic is appropriate for this section of the board?

It’s a good article, but so sad on every level, from the stories themselves to the human response of “feel good feel bad”...what else can I say but I can’t wait until all beings are liberated from samsara.

May all be well. Each and every one.
This typical response of Buddhists is as groan worthy as the subject.
Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

There are beings with little dust in their eyes who are falling away because they do not hear the Dhamma. There will be those who will understand the Dhamma.
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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:55 pm

It's today's version of Horatio Alger stories.

The difference is, today almost everyone has given up the illusion that they can "make it" and become one of the super-rich, so it's all these "luck and pluck" stories about how people utilize their ingenuity just to make ends meet. So basically, the moral of these stories is that all "luck and pluck" gets you today is the bare minimum to survive, if that. Lol/cry.
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Post by Rick » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:17 pm

Soon we'll have a new whole category of hero: The brave men and women who risk their lives to stop mass shooters in the act of mass shooting. They shall be lauded and given enormous gold pendants which they will wear at all times to remind the rest of us that we live in a country of heroes. There will be a Mass Shooter Thwarting Awards show that will rival the Oscars for Nielsen ratings. Tv series will abound: The Hero of Hunstable High School, Innocent Bystanders Who Kick Ass, Shoot the Shooter! Thwarter-heroes will be on late-night talk shows, they'll get civic monuments, Kid Rock will write songs about them.

And what about addressing the things that cause mass shootings, gun control, rampant violence, an administration that's modeled itself after the one in Idiocracy? Liberal goodie-two-shoes hogwash! They're no heroes, they're the Villains!

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Post by well wisher » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:22 am

Rick wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:17 pm
Soon we'll have a new whole category of hero: The brave men and women who risk their lives to stop mass shooters in the act of mass shooting. They shall be lauded and given enormous gold pendants which they will wear at all times to remind the rest of us that we live in a country of heroes. There will be a Mass Shooter Thwarting Awards show that will rival the Oscars for Nielsen ratings. Tv series will abound: The Hero of Hunstable High School, Innocent Bystanders Who Kick Ass, Shoot the Shooter! Thwarter-heroes will be on late-night talk shows, they'll get civic monuments, Kid Rock will write songs about them.

And what about addressing the things that cause mass shootings, gun control, rampant violence, an administration that's modeled itself after the one in Idiocracy? Liberal goodie-two-shoes hogwash! They're no heroes, they're the Villains!
Nice, great to see another Idiocracy fan.
Sadly power-addicted tyrannical big governments & corporations seems to be the accepted norm.
And society is stuck on continuously putting in band-aid temporary patches, instead of focusing on the root cause fixes of systematic corruption and abuse.
Are the big players which benefits most from this late-stage capitalism, too big and powerful and too entrenched, to be toppled or changed?

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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by Dan74 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:31 am

Well, yes and no.

Sure the system sucks in many ways and can and should be improved. At the same time, people buckling down and doing their best under the circumstances, rather than delegating all responsibility for their fate to the unjust system is an inspirational thing. It has become de rigeur to complain and rage and give up, and most of us can find plenty of excuses for doing so. So this gritty quality, that folks decry as uncle tomist with some justification, I find to be a very positive attitude, nevertheless.

Not everyone is going to be a revolutionary, pushing for change. And actually if such folks could be persuaded to join a movement for change, what a wonderful moving addition that would be. But in the meantime, if, given all the internal and external constraints, we just pull ourselves together and do our best, that's something to celebrate, surely.

I know there is an unspoken message in these stories that all the folks who complain about the system are just the loudmouths who lack the moral fibre of these heroes. That's the pernicious part, yes.

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Post by well wisher » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:30 pm

Dan74 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:31 am
Well, yes and no.

Sure the system sucks in many ways and can and should be improved. At the same time, people buckling down and doing their best under the circumstances, rather than delegating all responsibility for their fate to the unjust system is an inspirational thing. It has become de rigeur to complain and rage and give up, and most of us can find plenty of excuses for doing so. So this gritty quality, that folks decry as uncle tomist with some justification, I find to be a very positive attitude, nevertheless.

Not everyone is going to be a revolutionary, pushing for change. And actually if such folks could be persuaded to join a movement for change, what a wonderful moving addition that would be. But in the meantime, if, given all the internal and external constraints, we just pull ourselves together and do our best, that's something to celebrate, surely.

I know there is an unspoken message in these stories that all the folks who complain about the system are just the loudmouths who lack the moral fibre of these heroes. That's the pernicious part, yes.
Right, so for the majority of us ordinary citizens without the deep connections to the political & big corporations, I suppose all we can do is grit our teeth and focus on survival as our privilege and powers our limited; make the best out of an non-ideal situation, as in try to make lemonades out of all the lemons that life throws at us.

But I do not think it means that we should become complacent to the encroachment & infringement on human rights and freedoms.More efforts are required to protect basic essential rights & freedoms & livelihood, against big government & corporations encroachment upon it.. I agree that excessive complaints is not very productive, but given the powerless situations for many of us ordinaries, I suppose all we can do for now is complain to highlight the issues.
What other followup actions can we do: sign more petitions or join more protests, create more or join non-profit liberty civil unions, or lobby towards the lawmakers?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy
For example, some more supporting evidence of surveillance state and oppression in late-stage capitalism: in several Canadian big cities, I notice an increase big governments money-grabbing activities in recent years, such as increase in taxes and insurance rates and traffic/tax-misreporting fine rates, more automated traffic cameras on the streets recording speeding or bad-turns with heavier fines, more police patrols and blockades, increasing housing prices and taxes to un-affordable levels, mortgages/credit card debts/payday loan sharks becoming the accepted norm... etc. As if we are not paying enough taxes already!

... Or maybe it's easier & safer to just let go of all the strife & worries in the mind, and focus more to peaceful & happy thoughts are imaginations, like rebirths to the Buddha's purelands!
Namo Shakyamuni Buddha .... Namo Amitbha Buddha .... Namo Buddha-ya...
May all sentient beings be liberated from Samsara.

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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by Kim O'Hara » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm

well wisher wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:30 pm
... What other followup actions can we do: sign more petitions or join more protests, create more or join non-profit liberty civil unions, or lobby towards the lawmakers?
...
:twothumbsup:
Get involved in politics.

And build local communities in every way we can - shop locally, eat out locally, walk or cycle, take your kids to play in local parks, talk to neighbours ...

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:24 pm

If you want to change things, locally/regionally is a good place to start. A good example could be criminal justice. In the US we have all kinds of problems stemming from the criminalization of drug use, the effects are monstrous, people locked up for half their lives due to drug habits, people being extorted by the state in between periods of incarceration, etc.

Everyone knows this now. Even most ardent conservatives will admit the War on Drugs is an abject failure that has ruined millions of lives.

Regionally (Washington state) we have had enough outcry about some of these things that they are better than many other areas. There are lots of ways to get involved, volunteering, donation, all kinds of stuff. While we may seem powerless in many ways with "big picture" stuff, it is possible to see tangible results.
His welcoming
& rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
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Knowing the dustless, sorrowless state,
he discerns rightly,
has gone, beyond becoming,
to the Further Shore.

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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by well wisher » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:23 pm

Kim O'Hara wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm
:twothumbsup:
Get involved in politics.

And build local communities in every way we can - shop locally, eat out locally, walk or cycle, take your kids to play in local parks, talk to neighbours ...

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Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:24 pm
If you want to change things, locally/regionally is a good place to start. A good example could be criminal justice. In the US we have all kinds of problems stemming from the criminalization of drug use, the effects are monstrous, people locked up for half their lives due to drug habits, people being extorted by the state in between periods of incarceration, etc.

Everyone knows this now. Even most ardent conservatives will admit the War on Drugs is an abject failure that has ruined millions of lives.

Regionally (Washington state) we have had enough outcry about some of these things that they are better than many other areas. There are lots of ways to get involved, volunteering, donation, all kinds of stuff. While we may seem powerless in many ways with "big picture" stuff, it is possible to see tangible results.
Nice suggestions & solutions, thanks guys! One step at a time, I guess - focusing on the local sphere that we can feasibly impact and benefit.
I have been thinking about doing more volunteering, as the traditional job hunting methods (i.e internet application/phone calling) don't really work out anymore - very low response & success rate. The so called capitalistic "trickle-down" is being blocked for more and more people, and maybe it never really worked - as historically it has given rise to labour & civil rights unions to force it down from the rich elites in control.
I guess all the recent increase in global trade wars are probably yet another undesirable by-products of late-stage capitalism: with extreme continuing concentration of wealth at the hands of the few lucky rich folks, while most other folks gets poorer, as many income-inequality statistics has proven in recent years.

It's actually kind of ironic, looking back in history that the North America Colonies (USA & Canada) declared independence from British Empire to fight tyranny. But nowadays, the big-capital corporations & huge-budgeted surveillance-obsessed governments ARE the tyrants themselves now! Coming full circle.

Anyways, enough ranting from me. Maybe it's a waste of time to obsess too much over materialistic matters, and actions definitely speaks louder than words! Wishing all sentient beings well ~~

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Re: The ‘feel-good’ horror of late-stage capitalism

Post by DharmaN00b » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:34 am

Well the choir stopped singing and the rich are "body positive". You know, you don't really want an elephant in your room, but it will do for now. :toilet:
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