I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Simon E. » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:18 pm

justsit wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:28 pm
As previously mentioned, to be admitted to med school you must first pass the MCAT.

Just for fun, here is a link to a site with sample questions - test your knowledge!

https://www.testprepreview.com/mcat_practice.htm
I am very glad that this was/is not a necessity here in the UK! :thinking:
Entrance to med school is dependant on statuary National exams at Advanced level ( A Levels ). Which are exams taken at age 16/17..although they are open to more mature students. One has to be a science subject.
If you use the word 'mind' without defining your terms I will ask you politely for a definition. :smile:
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Motova » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:23 pm

I can see removing parasites and enabling evil people would be a problem.

But I think most, if not all, jobs are responsible for directly or indirectly killing many sentient beings and enabling many evil people.

We are all constantly shitting on sentient beings whether we like it or not. :shrug:

If I scratch my ass I probably kill thousands of microscopic skin eaters.

Our lives are maintained by countless mountains of suffering.
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by justsit » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:54 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:18 pm
justsit wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:28 pm
As previously mentioned, to be admitted to med school you must first pass the MCAT.

Just for fun, here is a link to a site with sample questions - test your knowledge!

https://www.testprepreview.com/mcat_practice.htm
I am very glad that this was/is not a necessity here in the UK! :thinking:
LOL. :tongue:
I took my nursing boards in 1988; our curriculum included "baby" organic chemistry (as opposed to the Chem Majors' "big" organic) and it about did me in. When I tried the sample questions in the link, I was pleasantly surprised how much of it is still in the memory bank. Physiology, which I thought I had a pretty good handle on - not so much. Fortunately, my current practice deals with paperwork, not patients, so that's probably okay.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Simon E. » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:00 pm

I watch regularly a BBC quiz called Mastermind..I am frequently appalled at the degree to which I have forgotten basic anatomy and physiology..Like you this did not matter in the years before retirement . as I by then was teaching on the mental health modules.
If you use the word 'mind' without defining your terms I will ask you politely for a definition. :smile:
This is not to be awkward. But it's really not self-explanatory.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by DNS » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:54 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:05 pm
An M.D. is the basic qualification needed to practice medicine. In most countries including the UK it takes 5 or 6 years to gain an M.D. qualification.
In the U.S. it takes 4 years for the bachelor's then 4 years for the M.D. plus at least 5 years of residency; so about 13 years beyond high school where a new doctor can be 31 years old or more. I like the non-U.S. way of just 6 years for the M.D., no bachelor's required. Many doctors in the U.S. end up being the 6 year program anyway because they earn their M.D. in India or another country, come to the U.S., pass the medical licensing test and become U.S. doctors making the same salary as the American med school graduates who spent twice as much time in school.

A physician is a professional career, not a scholarly career, so no need for all those extra years, imo. A scholarly career writing professional articles, looking for cures in a lab is the more the work of a Ph.D. or Sc.D., not an M.D., imo.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Kunga Lhadzom » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:02 pm

pemachophel wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:38 pm
from a buddhist pov. the practice needs to primarily based on bodhicitta.
That's why i kept asking him WHY he wants to do this....i wanted to know what was the motivation...besides wanting to sponsor teachers and retreats ( that in itself requires bodhictta), and you don't have to be a doctor to do that...
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Simon E. » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:05 pm

Right...( David)..
Although what I was citing as the norm in the UK is, of course, the basics.
Having obtained the M.D. one must then serve a registrar under the supervision of a Consultant..this is likely to last for two years or so..then Senior Reg. if one is planning a hospital based career, or a placement as a trainee General Practitioner ( family doctor) for a similar duration.
So that 6 years quickly becomes 8 or 9 years and one is still a junior. :smile:
So the average age of a new General Practitioner or Senior Registrar would be very similar to their American counterpart..late 20's early thirties.
The average age for a new hospital Consultant would be early forties.
If you use the word 'mind' without defining your terms I will ask you politely for a definition. :smile:
This is not to be awkward. But it's really not self-explanatory.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Ricky » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:27 pm

Motova wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:48 pm
:reading:
If the doctor thing doesn't work out you can also look into the trades like plumbing. Despite the social stigma of working with your hands, you can make quite a bit of dough if you're good at it. I actually used to help out a millionaire plumber who was averaging about 1000-1500 per day doing bathroom renos and service calls. Took him a while to establish his business though.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Motova » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 pm

Ricky wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:27 pm
Motova wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:48 pm
:reading:
If the doctor thing doesn't work out you can also look into the trades like plumbing. Despite the social stigma of working with your hands, you can make quite a bit of dough if you're good at it. I actually used to help out a millionaire plumber who was averaging about 1000-1500 per day doing bathroom renos and service calls. Took him a while to establish his business though.
:toilet:
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Ricky » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:02 pm

Motova wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Ricky wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:27 pm
Motova wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:48 pm
:reading:
If the doctor thing doesn't work out you can also look into the trades like plumbing. Despite the social stigma of working with your hands, you can make quite a bit of dough if you're good at it. I actually used to help out a millionaire plumber who was averaging about 1000-1500 per day doing bathroom renos and service calls. Took him a while to establish his business though.
:toilet:
You need a high iq to become a doctor which you probably don't.... nevermind. Just giving some alternate advice. :)
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Motova » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:03 pm

Ricky wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:02 pm
Motova wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:36 pm
Ricky wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:27 pm

If the doctor thing doesn't work out you can also look into the trades like plumbing. Despite the social stigma of working with your hands, you can make quite a bit of dough if you're good at it. I actually used to help out a millionaire plumber who was averaging about 1000-1500 per day doing bathroom renos and service calls. Took him a while to establish his business though.
:toilet:
You need a high iq to become a doctor witch you probably don't.... nevermind. Just giving some alternate advice. :)
:reading:
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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by DNS » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:10 pm

Simon E. wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:05 pm
So the average age of a new General Practitioner or Senior Registrar would be very similar to their American counterpart..late 20's early thirties.
The average age for a new hospital Consultant would be early forties.
Interesting, thanks for that info.
Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:02 pm
pemachophel wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:38 pm
from a buddhist pov. the practice needs to primarily based on bodhicitta.
That's why i kept asking him WHY he wants to do this....i wanted to know what was the motivation...besides wanting to sponsor teachers and retreats ( that in itself requires bodhictta), and you don't have to be a doctor to do that...
Yes, I agree with this. The motivation should be based on developing a lot of bodhicitta, helping fellow human beings, perhaps adding in some doctors without borders voluntary work. The motivation to be a doctor shouldn't be money; or a small part of it at the most. For making money and helping others through generosity, there are plenty of other careers one could pursue, many of which make more than a doctor's salary.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Motova » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:30 pm

Doctor > Lawyer > Engineer > Pilot > Best Selling Author

Thoughts?

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Malcolm wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm
The four means of converting beings to the Dharma are generosity (which itself as four aspects: giving material gifts, conferring fearlessness, loving kindness and teaching Dharma), pleasant speech, conduct and setting an example.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Simon E. » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:42 pm

DNS wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:10 pm
Simon E. wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:05 pm
So the average age of a new General Practitioner or Senior Registrar would be very similar to their American counterpart..late 20's early thirties.
The average age for a new hospital Consultant would be early forties.
Interesting, thanks for that info.
Kunga Lhadzom wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:02 pm
pemachophel wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:38 pm
from a buddhist pov. the practice needs to primarily based on bodhicitta.
That's why i kept asking him WHY he wants to do this....i wanted to know what was the motivation...besides wanting to sponsor teachers and retreats ( that in itself requires bodhictta), and you don't have to be a doctor to do that...
Yes, I agree with this. The motivation should be based on developing a lot of bodhicitta, helping fellow human beings, perhaps adding in some doctors without borders voluntary work. The motivation to be a doctor shouldn't be money; or a small part of it at the most. For making money and helping others through generosity, there are plenty of other careers one could pursue, many of which make more than a doctor's salary.
Particularly in the UK where medics are on a fixed pay scale that is agreed nationally according to grade and experience. It's a comfortable living, but very modest compared to industry or evn to private medicine.
If you use the word 'mind' without defining your terms I will ask you politely for a definition. :smile:
This is not to be awkward. But it's really not self-explanatory.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Motova » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:01 pm

I believe everyone has infinite potential, and if anyone wants to become a teacherdoctorlawyerengineerpilotastronautjudgekungfumastajedi (or any one of those) then I will support you. :smile:
Malcolm wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:58 pm
The four means of converting beings to the Dharma are generosity (which itself as four aspects: giving material gifts, conferring fearlessness, loving kindness and teaching Dharma), pleasant speech, conduct and setting an example.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by justsit » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:48 pm

Motova wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:01 pm
I believe everyone has infinite potential, and if anyone wants to become a teacherdoctorlawyerengineerpilotastronautjudgekungfumastajedi (or any one of those) then I will support you. :smile:
Great! I'm ready for a new career. PM'ing you my address, just send a check. :smile:

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by Ricky » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:46 am

Motova wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:01 pm
I believe everyone has infinite potential, and if anyone wants to become a teacherdoctorlawyerengineerpilotastronautjudgekungfumastajedi (or any one of those) then I will support you. :smile:
Discipline is also crucial in achieving your goals, whatever they may be.

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Re: I wish to become a Doctor (MD)!

Post by odysseus » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:49 am

Motova wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:01 pm
I believe everyone has infinite potential,
So do I, but there could happen obstacles on the way. An example is the Angulimala story, to illustrate that he was able to do something to clean up his act, so he could live a happy life but he did never reach Nirvana. He had to wait till another life for that. I'm not saying you are like Angulimala, I am saying there could be obstacles in life, made whether by others or on your own.

So hope you can become a doctor. Best of luck! :cheers:

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