How to stop orgasms during meditation?

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Mantrik » Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:57 pm

I'm sure it must be very distracting.
However, you could try relaxing and simply letting it occur and then releasing it. In other words, not to treat it as a a distraction you want to struggle with.
Perhaps Dzogchen practice may be of help.
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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Soma999 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:58 pm

It could be energy moving. It can be quiet intense sometime. I don't know your particular situation, but making that a problem will turn it into a problem.. Relax, focus on a deity, intensify your concentration on the deity. Don't resist. Let energy rise, dissociate from your mental conditionning and use it for your meditation. Then it will transform. Maybe behind energy there is bliss. But turn that into a problem, and it will bound you.

In some meditation when energy rise personaly it is powerful and could easily be turn into pleasure. I don't grasp at it. I keep my attention on the deity. Then it rise to the heart and bliss come.

Tantra is all about energy, aliveness and using everything, turning even what bind into something that liberate. Wisdom and guidance is requiered for good work.

Sexuality is such a big thing in our culture. It tells a lot about our immaturity on the subject. Everyone speak about it, everything can lot go of his semen easily, then sleep. But letting energy rise to the heart, turn it into bliss, it's something more interesting i guess. Difficult maybe, but belonging to human potential.

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by 263748 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:21 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:This is a thing, you should find a teacher.
I have a teacher, but it's a man, and I don't really want to discuss it with him... I am looking for a female teacher now.

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by 263748 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:23 pm

Mantrik wrote:I'm sure it must be very distracting.
However, you could try relaxing and simply letting it occur and then releasing it. In other words, not to treat it as a a distraction you want to struggle with.
Perhaps Dzogchen practice may be of help.
Thanks for the thoughts. That's what I'm trying to do, but it's still quite overwhelming when it happens!
I don't know anything about dzogchen practice - could you give me a quick intro?

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by 263748 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Soma999 wrote:It could be energy moving. It can be quiet intense sometime. I don't know your particular situation, but making that a problem will turn it into a problem.. Relax, focus on a deity, intensify your concentration on the deity. Don't resist. Let energy rise, dissociate from your mental conditionning and use it for your meditation. Then it will transform. Maybe behind energy there is bliss. But turn that into a problem, and it will bound you.

In some meditation when energy rise personaly it is powerful and could easily be turn into pleasure. I don't grasp at it. I keep my attention on the deity. Then it rise to the heart and bliss come.

Tantra is all about energy, aliveness and using everything, turning even what bind into something that liberate. Wisdom and guidance is requiered for good work.

Sexuality is such a big thing in our culture. It tells a lot about our immaturity on the subject. Everyone speak about it, everything can lot go of his semen easily, then sleep. But letting energy rise to the heart, turn it into bliss, it's something more interesting i guess. Difficult maybe, but belonging to human potential.
Thank you, I think that's what I'm working on at the moment - being more aware of the energy when it's starting, and seeing whether it might transform. It's all very interesting, anyway!

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Mantrik » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:08 pm

263748 wrote:
Mantrik wrote:I'm sure it must be very distracting.
However, you could try relaxing and simply letting it occur and then releasing it. In other words, not to treat it as a a distraction you want to struggle with.
Perhaps Dzogchen practice may be of help.
Thanks for the thoughts. That's what I'm trying to do, but it's still quite overwhelming when it happens!
I don't know anything about dzogchen practice - could you give me a quick intro?
There is a lot of info on this forum, but maybe this intro is relevant to your situation:

http://www.nyingma.com/dzogchen1.htm
http://www.khyung.com

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Adamantine » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:09 pm

I'd discuss this with a male or female Ngakpa / Ngakma lama
as this has to do with your subtle body / chakras opening And it'd be good to get direct instruction how to bring it into the path
from a non-monastic specialist that will be experienced in sexuality as an aspect of practice. For now it may be good to just be open and spacious around it and allow it to happen just as you observe thoughts arising and passing. But that's just a humble recommendation and no replacement for instructions from a qualified Lama.
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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by dharmafootsteps » Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:51 pm

Where are you based? If it's possible, Lama Tsultrim Allione could be a good person to ask about this: http://taramandala.org/

She's female, a great teacher, very experienced, and from what I know she's worked a lot with how sexuality relates to the spiritual path.

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by 263748 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:48 am

dharmafootsteps wrote:Where are you based? If it's possible, Lama Tsultrim Allione could be a good person to ask about this: http://taramandala.org/

She's female, a great teacher, very experienced, and from what I know she's worked a lot with how sexuality relates to the spiritual path.
A bit far from me, but thanks for the suggestion anyway! :smile:

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by archaic » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:57 pm

Noone has suggested to simply view the orgasm dispassionately? To accept and try to embrace neither clinging nor craving with this sensory phenomenon?

Perhaps simply begin trying to concentrate on the breath once again, without trying to judge or to analyze?

I have never experienced this situation, but I am sure it is nothing to be embarrassed about. It could be an opportunity to practice acceptance of the intricate and unique experience one is going through.

To me, meditation is an individual process and may not require a teacher... Of course, if a person could find a teacher they connect with this would be good, but it's not a necessary thing.

To the original poster, I hope you find the answers you need!! :namaste:

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by archaic » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:14 pm

Mantrik wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2017 7:57 pm
I'm sure it must be very distracting.
However, you could try relaxing and simply letting it occur and then releasing it. In other words, not to treat it as a a distraction you want to struggle with.
Perhaps Dzogchen practice may be of help.
I apologize I see that Mantrik posted this.

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Jesse » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:40 am

Since you do not have a teacher you feel comfortable speaking to, might I suggest visiting a monastery which houses nuns? Just ask if there are any very knowledgeable nuns residing there.

I can't say exactly what you are experiencing, but there are states in meditation that can feel remarkably similar to an orgasm. However, they are distinct in certain ways, as they do not usually involve the genitals. Rather feelings of bliss that arise that feel very close, if not almost exactly like an orgasm feels. For example, I have experienced intense bliss that felt very much like an intense orgasm, however, there was no stimulation of the genitals or any sort of 'discharge'.

If that is not the case, then I would suggest seeing both a teacher and a doctor. There is a medical condition that can cause this, but as far as it resulting from meditation, I have no idea. It could be that your body reacts to these feelings of bliss differently? In that, they affect your body more so than it would others. Though I am simply speculating, and you should really find someone knowledgeable.
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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:53 pm

263748 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:46 am
Okay, so this is a bit embarrassing, but less so here than discussing it in real life with other Buddhists....

I am a 45 year old woman and have been meditating about 4 years. Usually mindfulness of breathing, occasionally metta practice or just sitting. I sometimes have sits where I am just starting to get concentrated on my breath (although actually, I'm not all *that* concentrated) when - there are no two ways about it - my body has an orgasm (or several). Has anyone else experienced this? What is going on?!

It is frankly a bit distracting and disturbs my nice quiet breathing that I had been building up! Does anyone have any thoughts about how I can stop this happening? (I mean, there is a time and a place.... and the meditation cushion doesn't really seem to be it...)
actually there is no problem with that
sense of pleasure, orgasms, joy is normal
as we don't get attached
joy is linked to long life and wealth.

i ask you to please consider practice vajrayana, there are peacefull, joyfull and wrathfull Buddhas (and none of them is like statues...)
there you can find better lights on your experience.

tashi deleks!

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Re: How to stop orgasms during meditation?

Post by Minobu » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:03 pm

263748 wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:46 am
Okay, so this is a bit embarrassing, but less so here than discussing it in real life with other Buddhists....

I am a 45 year old woman and have been meditating about 4 years. Usually mindfulness of breathing, occasionally metta practice or just sitting. I sometimes have sits where I am just starting to get concentrated on my breath (although actually, I'm not all *that* concentrated) when - there are no two ways about it - my body has an orgasm (or several). Has anyone else experienced this? What is going on?!

It is frankly a bit distracting and disturbs my nice quiet breathing that I had been building up! Does anyone have any thoughts about how I can stop this happening? (I mean, there is a time and a place.... and the meditation cushion doesn't really seem to be it...)
there were two people who gave me Tara initiations , one a Geshe and the other a Rinpoche , where i had the same thing happen during the initiation and after.


It was weird but i had this non ejaculate orgasm during the practice from time to time. It got to the point when i did Cittamani Tara sadhana if it did not happen i felt it missing, or i was not doing the sadhana practice perfect enough.

At first it frightened me and then i thought it was like something really special...
so i asked a Rinpoche and he said it was purification. Just that.

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Re: meditation is giving me orgasms! help!

Post by Tenma » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:44 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:53 pm
263748 wrote:Okay, so this is a bit embarrassing, but less so here than discussing it in real life with other Buddhists....

I am a 45 year old woman and have been meditating about 4 years. Usually mindfulness of breathing, occasionally metta practice or just sitting. I sometimes have sits where I am just starting to get concentrated on my breath (although actually, I'm not all *that* concentrated) when - there are no two ways about it - my body has an orgasm (or several). Has anyone else experienced this? What is going on?!

It is frankly a bit distracting and disturbs my nice quiet breathing that I had been building up! Does anyone have any thoughts about how I can stop this happening? (I mean, there is a time and a place.... and the meditation cushion doesn't really seem to be it...)
In my time with woman it seems there are two types or orgasms possible. One likes guys were it is very localized in some respects to stimulus and the other that is more of an all-body effect.

It could be with your breathing that you are getting to the state of extreme piti.

(Piti) = physical pleasure. Since it is not associated with an object or desire it is usually free and can be an all-body type effect. As someone allows this state to develop it can be so intense that people literally can start shaking while in sitting posture and feeling overwhelmed.

This can be a place for Jhana absorption if you would like to learn about that meditation style.

Again describing subjective things is quite hard. It does seem though that your having classic "rapture" effects and possibly ready for Jhana.

Shoot me a msg if you want some more instructions and or good resources for guiding your practice from this point.
Isn't sexual pleasure a violation of samaya? Especially for a man doing whatever to a picture? Or is a man doing that with an enlightened mind an excuse?

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