Rare Methods?

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Rare Methods?

Post by CedarTree » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:58 pm

I sometimes hear about:

"Sky Gazing"

"Watching patterns of smoke from the Chillum"

"Prostration Practice".

I'd love to see how everyone see's the points of these practices, especially Sky Gazing and also to list some other unique practices they have heard or come by :)

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Post by jkarlins » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:57 pm

Prostrations are wonderful, and have many purposes.

Never learned sky gazing.

Gave up the chillum about ten years ago. It makes me paranoid and lazy.

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Post by amanitamusc » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:24 pm

In the night of that day one clumb the tree of illusion and swung on the rope of conception.

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Post by jkarlins » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:13 pm

right exactly

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Post by Grigoris » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:52 am

Prostrations are not rare and are found in almost every religion.
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Post by Dan74 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:31 am

Prostrations are great. I used to do at least 10 in the evening and my kid would come and join me. I don't do them anymore - thanks for reminding me!!!

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Post by jkarlins » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:39 pm

Malcolm has mentioned the "yogic benefits" of prostrations (in the Tibetan tradition- Grigoris, you make a valid point this practice being in many places).

I don't know how they work, but they have a multitude of benefits. My health significantly improved around the time I started doing them. I think part of this is just all of the practices, partly having a teacher, but also prostrations. I wasn't exactly unhealthy beforehand, but I'd get sick a few times a year, feel run down a lot. That changed.

Part of it, and I wish they'd do some scientific studies on it, is that for Vajrayanists, prostrations usually go along with a complicated visualization. I'm sure you can do them without, but one aspect of their being so powerful is that you have to imagine a bunch of stuff around you as you're doing it.

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Post by Karma_Yeshe » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:10 am

CedarTree wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:58 pm
I sometimes hear about:

"Sky Gazing"

"Watching patterns of smoke from the Chillum"

"Prostration Practice".

I'd love to see how everyone see's the points of these practices, especially Sky Gazing and also to list some other unique practices they have heard or come by :)
Gazing at the sky itself is not that much of a practice. You need transmission, further instructions and a view- than it can be more beneficial for your path.

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Post by Kim O'Hara » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:30 pm

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Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:26 am

I hear Taoists practice standing meditation, wuji qigong. Sometime for hours. From what i understand it's identical to what in yoga we call "Mountain Pose" asana. Plus the usual bhanda locks, esp the one at the base, and the one below the pineal, and centering in the dan tien whilst effortlessly breathing with the mind, you get the picture. Kicking one leg out it becomes tai chi, then you raise the chi and do Tree Hugging. Its all good
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Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:28 am

then theres walking meditation and - no joke - running meditation. its done in Tibet and Japan
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Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:29 am

Don't mess with tummo, LOL. I hear you can cook you own guts by mistake!
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Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:32 am

Hydotherapy! Especially hot springs!! Then of course there's Sensory Deprivation sessions, which parallel Raja Yoga meditation where the meditator is trained to have - zero - no sensory input to the brain, that too is a technique learned from a teacher.
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Re: Rare Methods?

Post by SunWuKong » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:35 am

Another rare method is the fourth jhana, where thoughts and feelings stop.
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