my vision shines and wobbles when I concentrate? Is that normal?

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SonamGyatso
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my vision shines and wobbles when I concentrate? Is that normal?

Post by SonamGyatso » Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:54 am

When I am able to get my mind into a concentrated mode, sometimes colors embed themselves in my vision and shine like light. Shapes of everything wobble like i'm using a hallucinogen. Is this ordinary activity of open-eyed meditation or should I seek medical assistance?

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Re: my vision shines and wobbles when I concentrate? Is that normal?

Post by Miroku » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:50 am

SonamGyatso wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:54 am
When I am able to get my mind into a concentrated mode, sometimes colors embed themselves in my vision and shine like light. Shapes of everything wobble like i'm using a hallucinogen. Is this ordinary activity of open-eyed meditation or should I seek medical assistance?
You might be concentrating too hard.
Child, if you are not hypocritical and out of control, that is conduct.
~ Padampa Sangye

You say such clever things to people, but you do not apply them to yourself.
The faults within you are the ones to be exposed.
~ Padampa Sangye

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Re: my vision shines and wobbles when I concentrate? Is that normal?

Post by Marc » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:05 am

SonamGyatso wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:54 am
When I am able to get my mind into a concentrated mode, sometimes colors embed themselves in my vision and shine like light. Shapes of everything wobble like i'm using a hallucinogen. Is this ordinary activity of open-eyed meditation or should I seek medical assistance?
Do not worry. Nothing wrong, nothing special.  
I guess you are practicing some kind of fixation, with open eyes...
This is totally normal, and most instruction manuals go as follow:
Just ignore these "funny visuals" and stay focused on your object.  

At the same time, as wisely pointed Miroku: Careful not too be intense...
Most people approach concentration in too much of a forceful manner which, may at first, give some impression of pacification of the mind... But usually end up in becoming more nervous, because the mind is actually not relax & focused, but tight & blocked.
Go gently & patiently ;)

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Re: my vision shines and wobbles when I concentrate? Is that normal?

Post by Emmet » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:25 am

If it occurs only during meditation (i.e., you can usually bring it on at will), it's probably makyo; a meaningless trick of the mind. Pay no attention to it, but as Miroku suggested, you might consider lightening up. The Buddha observed that a lute string sounds best when it's neither too loose, nor too tight; the 'Middle Way'.
If your visual disturbances come and go without rhyme or reason, you might want to get that checked out by an ophthalmologist.
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