emaho wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:38 pm
treehuggingoctopus wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:45 pm
I have arrived at the conclusion that poor Martin is no different from Jean-Jacques in this respect.
"Poor" Martin? Seriously? Yeah, let's get back to topic...
Well, I had not thought the word "poor" would be controversial, but if you deem it so, have a look here:
Not a bore, contrary to what Malcolm believes, but a brilliant mind who erred horribly, committing a tragic mistake that would cast a shadow over all the brilliance of his thought -- and thus very much a "poor" guy, if you ask me.
The comparisons with Skrewdriver are totally wrong. Unlike Donaldson and co., Heidegger never incited anyone to violence. The Nazism he supported -- for a brief time, let it be added, the affair was patently over by the very early 1940s (some argue that it ended as early as 1936-1938) -- had actually very little in common with the Nazism that was. Donaldson was a Nazi till the day he died, and unlike Heidegger he knew perfectly well what Nazism actually was and what atrocities it perpetrated (worse, he cherished
these atrocities) -- long after Heidegger stopped supporting Hitler and his pals. Heidegger was
anti-Semitic, though his anti-Semitism seems mostly "ethnic," the kind of anti-Semitism that unfortunately was part of the European cultural package at that time, and in no way only among Germans. But he never tried to excuse the Holocaust -- and indeed by the early 1940s had come to view not just Nazism but all fascism as yet another, and perfectly ghastly, manifestation of the nihilism which holds sway over us when das Gestell reigns.
Personally, what I find the most disappointing aspect of his thought
is his anthropocentrism, the flaw that is at least as glaring in Levinas too. They both ought to have known so much better. But then again, anthropocentrism has been so deeply ingrained in our culture for so long that there is but a handful of people who have managed to escape it...
Malcolm wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:00 pm
Interestingly, Death in June's founder, David P, was in another Chiswick band called Crisis — a hard left punk band. He then became a fellow traveler on the right.
Douglas P., you mean, P. standing for Pearce. Crisis also featured Tony Wakeford, another fellow traveller of the far right (at some point, at least). Just after Crisis' demise they formed Amongst the Ruins, an industrial/proto neofolk band with clearly fascist inclinations.
I have never understood the cult status of Death in June. I mean, all controversies aside, they always sounded so mediocre...
. . . there they saw a rock! But it wasn't a rock . . .