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California wildfires threaten Buddhist centers and monasteries

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:46 pm

California wildfires threaten Buddhist centers and monasteries

Sonoma Mountain Zen Center and Abhayagiri Buddhist Monastery were both threatened by the wildfires, but now seem to be safe from major harm.

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Re: California wildfires threaten Buddhist centers and monasteries

Post by Wayfarer » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:39 pm

The scenes of devastation from those fires are unbelievable and heartbreaking. Entire neighbourhoods entirely razed to the ground.
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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 pm

Wayfarer wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:39 pm
The scenes of devastation from those fires are unbelievable and heartbreaking. Entire neighbourhoods entirely razed to the ground.
California fires: 32 dead as 'ashes and bones' found in ruins

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/13/us/ca ... index.html

unbelievable and heartbreaking
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Post by TharpaChodron » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:59 am

We experienced the smoke from the fires the other day and we are two hours away. Terrible. The story about the 100 and 99 year old couple who died in the fires really touched me.

I keep remembering a similar fire I saw live on the news in southern California a few years ago.
as a helicopter flew over a ridge with flames encroaching there were two horses who were trapped between the coming fires and a high, steep cliff with no where to escape. The camera watched them as they panicked with no where to go. I think they must have fallen/jumped off the cliff. The camera panned away as if they didn't want us to see what happened to those poor animals. It disturbed me and I'll never get over seeing that. prayers to all affected by fires and other natural disasters.

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Post by Wayfarer » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:37 am

We have them here in this part of the world too (namely Australia). Here it's just coming on to summer. The last really big conflagration was in 2009 which took 173 lives and destroyed hundreds of homes. There have been others since, and I myself live in a bushfire-prone suburb.

Anyway, they're terrifying things to see, and so utterly destructive. Heart goes out to all those who have lost homes and loved ones.

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Post by boda » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:13 am

Wayfarer wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:37 am
We have them here in this part of the world too (namely Australia). Here it's just coming on to summer. The last really big conflagration was in 2009 which took 173 lives and destroyed hundreds of homes. There have been others since, and I myself live in a bushfire-prone suburb.

Anyway, they're terrifying things to see, and so utterly destructive. Heart goes out to all those who have lost homes and loved ones.

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I’ve heard that clearing around 100 yards around an area may provide some protection.

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Post by Wayfarer » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:51 am

Indeed have a large clearing does help, but something that happens when the fire conditions are bad enough is that, because of a combination of travelling embers shifted by strong winds, and the heat radiating from nearby blazes, even apparently isolated trees and bushes can ignite. I remember an old 'firie' telling me a yarn about that - a tree standing in the middle of an apparently wide-open space, suddenly bursting into flames during a major fire.
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Post by dzogchungpa » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:00 pm

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Post by kirtu » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:43 pm

My friend's forest hermitage, Venerable Sobhana, Aranya Bodhi Hermitage , was threatened by the fires.

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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Dharma protectors doing their job at Abhayagiri monastery!
Ajahn Jotipālo recounted one experience talking with a firefighting crew from New Mexico:

I asked the crew from New Mexico how it was fighting the fire. They had been on the property for about 5 days. They said it was the weirdest thing, like the monastery refused to burn.
They said one evening (probably the day Timothy Luke was forced to leave Mt. Tabor, when he reported seeing 200 foot tall flames on the ridge) that 10 battalions (20 to a battalion) were out on the loop trail fighting the fires coming down from the ridge. They reported that the fires got down to the loop trail but the fire wouldn’t cross the trail. They said it was like the monastery refused to burn, and none of them could explain it. They reported their hair standing on it’s end and then the fire reversed itself and went back up the mountain. Everybody was kind of freaked-out, as they had never seen anything like this.
I asked several of the other crews about their experience and they all reported about this.
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Post by Nicholas Weeks » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:00 pm
Santa_Rosa_Fire_Kuan_Yin.jpg


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Not from a monastery but from -
Statue of Quan Yin, goddess of compassion and mercy in the burned neighborhood of Coffey Park in Santa Rosa, California.
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Post by dzogchungpa » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:34 pm

Nicholas Weeks wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 pm
dzogchungpa wrote:
Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:00 pm
Santa_Rosa_Fire_Kuan_Yin.jpg


From https://jerrydodrill.photoshelter.com/p ... M4opi0iA9w
Not from a monastery but from -
Statue of Quan Yin, goddess of compassion and mercy in the burned neighborhood of Coffey Park in Santa Rosa, California.

Yes, I should have made that clear. I think it's an appropriate image for this thread though.
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Post by smcj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:45 pm

New small fire near Boulder Creek, CA. FPMT has a retreat land called Vajrapani that is located very close to there. The app on my phone has a map that shows it in close proximity.
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Post by Fortyeightvows » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:15 am

smcj wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:45 pm
New small fire near Boulder Creek, CA. FPMT has a retreat land called Vajrapani that is located very close to there. The app on my phone has a map that shows it in close proximity.
They ended a retreat and everyone is leaving there.

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Post by Lucas Oliveira » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:15 pm

Mendocino Monks Return From Fiery Exile

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Post by Fortyeightvows » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:41 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:15 am
smcj wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:45 pm
New small fire near Boulder Creek, CA. FPMT has a retreat land called Vajrapani that is located very close to there. The app on my phone has a map that shows it in close proximity.
They ended a retreat and everyone is leaving there.
There is actually some rain there now

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Post by Ayu » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:28 am

Fortyeightvows wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:41 am
Fortyeightvows wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:15 am
smcj wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:45 pm
New small fire near Boulder Creek, CA. FPMT has a retreat land called Vajrapani that is located very close to there. The app on my phone has a map that shows it in close proximity.
They ended a retreat and everyone is leaving there.
There is actually some rain there now
Good news. :bow: May there be enough rain.
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Re: California wildfires threaten Buddhist centers and monasteries

Post by anjali » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:38 am

At the Abhayagiri monastery, here are photos exploring the monastery after the fire.

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Re: California wildfires threaten Buddhist centers and monasteries

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:13 pm

We were extraordinarily fortunate to have experienced no damage to any of our structures, except possibly minimal damage to one of our ridge water tanks. There are likely many reasons for this blessing, with most of the credit going to the excellent work done by the multiple fire-fighting crews from many different areas. We also believe there must have been some very powerful protective forces on the property looking after the monastery as we had fires coming from several directions that seemed to unexpectedly reverse direction.

On a more mundane level, we feel that the fire protection measures that we took prior to the fire (defensible clearances around buildings, trail maintenance, fire breaks, emergency procedures, etc.) were also very helpful. One thing we learned from this fire is that even with the extensive measures we have taken, we need to do more.

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