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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by Queequeg » Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:05 pm

Dan74 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:26 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:16 pm
Dan74 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:26 pm
I appreciate the sentiment, but evidence would be nicer.
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Ha! In the times, when truth is often stranger than fiction, it didn't actually sound so funny...
That's the crazy thing - a story like this does not sound far fetched at all.

The level of corruption in the world right now is mind boggling.
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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by Dan74 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:08 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:05 pm
Dan74 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:26 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:16 pm


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Ha! In the times, when truth is often stranger than fiction, it didn't actually sound so funny...
That's the crazy thing - a story like this does not sound far fetched at all.

The level of corruption in the world right now is mind boggling.
Yes, democracy has been all but subverted by the elites. Mind you, the checks and balances that still remain are extremely significant. Vlad Putin would like nothing better than for your to think that the Western model has failed, for the current world order to collapse and give him a free hand to carve out a nice sphere of influence in Europe and beyond. But at what cost? His Government can pretty much do what they want - assassinate opposition leaders, harass filmmakers and artists who don't support the jingoistic ideology they deem to be the correct one for Mother Russia. If you look carefully at the situation in Russia (and it is certainly not all grim), you might appreciate the freedoms that you still enjoy a great deal more.

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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by Queequeg » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:45 pm

Dan74 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:08 pm
Yes, democracy has been all but subverted by the elites. Mind you, the checks and balances that still remain are extremely significant. Vlad Putin would like nothing better than for your to think that the Western model has failed, for the current world order to collapse and give him a free hand to carve out a nice sphere of influence in Europe and beyond. But at what cost? His Government can pretty much do what they want - assassinate opposition leaders, harass filmmakers and artists who don't support the jingoistic ideology they deem to be the correct one for Mother Russia. If you look carefully at the situation in Russia (and it is certainly not all grim), you might appreciate the freedoms that you still enjoy a great deal more.
This is true. But we are definitely at a crisis point. Right now, there is a tax reform bill that is being worked out in Congress and it is a money grab for the 1%. And that's just one angle of what's happening. A general policy to try and privatize everything is a another and idealization of the military to the point significant numbers think we should have some sort of military junta ruling. Its not helping that we have authoritarian tendencies rising on both right and left.

I don't know if the rule of law has been under such threat in the West in centuries.
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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by srivijaya » Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:09 pm

Please someone, hurry up and impeach him.

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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by Nicholas Weeks » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:05 am

srivijaya wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:09 pm
Please someone, hurry up and impeach him.
Rep. Al Green tried & failed miserably.
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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by Dan74 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:08 am

Queequeg wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:45 pm
Dan74 wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:08 pm
Yes, democracy has been all but subverted by the elites. Mind you, the checks and balances that still remain are extremely significant. Vlad Putin would like nothing better than for your to think that the Western model has failed, for the current world order to collapse and give him a free hand to carve out a nice sphere of influence in Europe and beyond. But at what cost? His Government can pretty much do what they want - assassinate opposition leaders, harass filmmakers and artists who don't support the jingoistic ideology they deem to be the correct one for Mother Russia. If you look carefully at the situation in Russia (and it is certainly not all grim), you might appreciate the freedoms that you still enjoy a great deal more.
This is true. But we are definitely at a crisis point. Right now, there is a tax reform bill that is being worked out in Congress and it is a money grab for the 1%. And that's just one angle of what's happening. A general policy to try and privatize everything is a another and idealization of the military to the point significant numbers think we should have some sort of military junta ruling. Its not helping that we have authoritarian tendencies rising on both right and left.

I don't know if the rule of law has been under such threat in the West in centuries.
Very frightening stuff.

I wonder if more effort has been expended in actually educating the citizenry rather than manupulating them by any means possible into a state of frenzy in a fractured society where civic discourse is an oxymoron... would it be like this? Would it??

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Re: The Only Capitol of Israel

Post by PuerAzaelis » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:45 am

Nicholas Weeks wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:05 am
srivijaya wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:09 pm
Please someone, hurry up and impeach him.
Rep. Al Green tried & failed miserably.
Larry Flynt will give you $10 million for good, hard information ... give him a call?
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