Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Grigoris » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:18 pm

malcolm wrote:...
I just remembered why I stopped discussing with you. Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Grigoris » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:21 pm

Brunelleschi wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:45 pm
Right, but you can't really make the claim with a straight face that there would be no difference between say the Islamic Empire in Andalusia or the Ottoman Empire and the Aboriginal Australians in terms of development?
Yes I can and I explained why, obviously you did not read my explanation.
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"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Coëmgenu » Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:32 am

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:17 pm
After all, humans are generally destructive to their environment. It is not a Western thing specifically.
The Rapa Nui and their trees.
佛子。如來智慧。無相智慧。無閡智慧。具足在於眾生身中。但愚癡眾生顛倒想覆。不知不見不生信心。
O, sons and daughters. The Thus-Gone's wisdom. The signless wisdom. The unobstructed wisdom. It perfectly dwells within all sentient beings’ minds. Yet in ignorance, sentient beings err and think it covered. Not knowing, not seeing, not giving rise to faith.
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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Brunelleschi » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:51 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:21 pm
Brunelleschi wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:45 pm
Right, but you can't really make the claim with a straight face that there would be no difference between say the Islamic Empire in Andalusia or the Ottoman Empire and the Aboriginal Australians in terms of development?
Yes I can and I explained why, obviously you did not read my explanation.
No I read it friend. Just not convinced that's all. This is hardly mainstream scholarship?
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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Grigoris » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:46 pm

Brunelleschi wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:51 pm
No I read it friend. Just not convinced that's all. This is hardly mainstream scholarship?
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You do know that Aboriginal culture is oral? You are also aware of the fact that 90% of Aborigines were killed in the first 130 years of white colonisation?

So would it surprise you that a large portion of their contributions in terms of poetry, philosophy, mathematics, astronomy etc. may have been lost? Even so. There is still a wealth of knowledge and culture there. But seriously though...

Even if you lived in Australia all your life, there is a serious probability that you would never meet an Aboriginal. Especially if you lived in Tasmania, or did not travel into specific inner city suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne. The further north of Sydney that one travels, the higher the probability you will meet Aboriginal people. It was only because I was involved in support of Aboriginal Rights that I managed to have some encounters. It was only because I was actively interested that I managed to learn some bits and pieces about their culture. They are not all that trusting of white people (even browner one's like me) strangely enough.

In Aotearoa it was a different story. Given Maori are 15% of the population I had Maori school mates, teachers, etc... We were taught and shared in their culture, language, religion, etc...

So yes, I am convinced that their cultures do not differ from other cultures in levels of development. They just had a different development.
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Re: Right Wing and Left Wing Totalitairianism and Fascism

Post by Grigoris » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:12 pm

Traditional Aboriginal Healing at Santi
http://santifm.org/santi/2017/12/28/tra ... -at-santi/
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Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

"Butchers, prostitutes, those guilty of the five most heinous crimes, outcasts, the underprivileged: all are utterly the substance of existence and nothing other than total bliss."
The Supreme Source - The Kunjed Gyalpo
The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde

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