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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by Grigoris » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm

climb-up wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm
Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?
No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.
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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by climb-up » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:00 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm
climb-up wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm
Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?
No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.
Interesting.

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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by amanitamusc » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:41 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm
climb-up wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm
Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?
No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.
Do you observe this yourself?

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Post by Grigoris » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:20 am

amanitamusc wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:41 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm
climb-up wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:40 pm
Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?
No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.
Do you observe this yourself?
I'm not Greek Orthodox Christian, I'm a Buddhist, remember? :smile: But I am a vegetarian and teetotaler anyway (except for tsog/ganachakra).
"My religion is not deceiving myself."
Jetsun Milarepa 1052-1135 CE

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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by amanitamusc » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:48 am

Grigoris wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:20 am
amanitamusc wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:41 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm
No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.
Do you observe this yourself?
I'm not Greek Orthodox Christian, I'm a Buddhist, remember? :smile: But I am a vegetarian and teetotaler anyway (except for tsog/ganachakra).
I just thought it may be something you did if your parents
do these practices.
I have no doubt about you being a Buddhist. :thumbsup:

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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by Queequeg » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm

kirtu wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:02 pm
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Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:47 pm
kirtu wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:09 pm
I have never understood the obsession with marijuana, both for and against. It seems to be some kind of hyper-dualistic fetish.

yeah... but...

...have you ever tried understanding the obsession with marijuana...

...on weed, man?
A couple of times with friends .... (literally a couple of times).

So anyway, what is the obsession about?

Kirt
Some people just love it. There really isn't much more to it. Some people are wine afficionados. Some people are just alcoholics dressing their addiction in the trappings of sophistication. Some people are happy with Thunderbird and Wild Irish Rose. Some people who really love pot, really get into it as an encompassing identity - hemp clothes, rasta colors and pot leaf motifs. Why do people adopt any obsession? Some grown men walk around in shirts with other men's names on them because they are such fans of their athletic capabilities. People are weird.
:shrug:
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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:55 pm

kirtu wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:02 pm
dzogchungpa wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:47 pm
kirtu wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:09 pm
I have never understood the obsession with marijuana, both for and against. It seems to be some kind of hyper-dualistic fetish.

yeah... but...

...have you ever tried understanding the obsession with marijuana...

...on weed, man?
A couple of times with friends .... (literally a couple of times).

So anyway, what is the obsession about?

Kirt


Well, that's kind of like saying "I recited a couple of manis once. So, what's the obsession with Tibetan Buddhism about?" These things require steady application. :smile:
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Post by The Cicada » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:35 pm

Queequeg wrote:
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Why do people adopt any obsession?
Prapañca.

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Post by Queequeg » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:28 pm

The Cicada wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:35 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm
Why do people adopt any obsession?
Prapañca.

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'xa'tly.
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Post by The Cicada » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:50 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:28 pm
'xa'tly.
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Post by Thomas Amundsen » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:55 pm

The Cicada wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:35 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm
Why do people adopt any obsession?
Prapañca.

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phpBB [video]

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Post by Queequeg » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:58 pm

The Cicada wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:50 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:28 pm
'xa'tly.
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:shrug: 'ts'how I pronounce it.
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Post by Queequeg » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:00 pm

Thomas Amundsen wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:55 pm
phpBB [video]
The dude is definitely appreciating the legal weed.

that movie is 20 years old...
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Post by Thomas Amundsen » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:14 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:00 pm
Thomas Amundsen wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:55 pm
phpBB [video]
The dude is definitely appreciating the legal weed.

that movie is 20 years old...
He most certainly is! This movie still makes me laugh after 20 years! :lol:

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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:58 pm

The Cicada wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:35 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm
Why do people adopt any obsession?
Prapañca.

Or, in this case, potpañca.
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Everything looks impressive
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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by krodha » Thu Mar 22, 2018 4:01 am

https://flipboard.com/article/congress- ... forbes.com

In ya face, Jeff.

Hopefully same protection will extend to adult use.

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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by Joseph » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:11 am

Not that relevant, but

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....

Learnt a valuable lesson! Hopefully this shame will ----> Restraint -----> Faith :meditate:

Anyway... the moral is that whenever I think I can act out of equanimity that very thought should be enough to signal the dualistic contradiction inherent within , and that I think it's time to recognize my own limitations and take a vow against intoxicants .

:toilet: :toilet:

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:21 pm

Joseph wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:11 am
Not that relevant, but

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....

Learnt a valuable lesson! Hopefully this shame will ----> Restraint -----> Faith :meditate:

Anyway... the moral is that whenever I think I can act out of equanimity that very thought should be enough to signal the dualistic contradiction inherent within , and that I think it's time to recognize my own limitations and take a vow against intoxicants .

:toilet: :toilet:
I had a similar experience recently with booze. I'd quit for 4 or 5 years after taking refuge after realizing how unhealthy, mind-dulling and repressive my drinking habit was. Recently I figured I'd allow myself to drink occasionally, predictably, things began to escalate and I found myself deciding to just quit for a month. After that month the difference in clarity was so notable that I've decided to go at least a year before even considering a casual drink. I didnt perceive that drinking a few times a month could have such an effect overall until I stopped again.
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Re: Weed is now legal in California

Post by kirtu » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:07 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:21 pm
Joseph wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:11 am
...

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....
...
I had a similar experience recently with booze. I'd quit for 4 or 5 years after taking refuge after realizing how unhealthy, mind-dulling and repressive my drinking habit was. Recently I figured I'd allow myself to drink occasionally, predictably, things began to escalate and I found myself deciding to just quit for a month. After that month the difference in clarity was so notable that I've decided to go at least a year before even considering a casual drink. I didnt perceive that drinking a few times a month could have such an effect overall until I stopped again.
Unfortunately some people are very susceptible to these substances. Some alcohol for many people should be fine though. But for some it's not.

Tobacco clearly just obscures ones inner body. I've seen one Zen teacher smoke (and he admitted that it was an addiction and didn't recommend it). It probably obscured him as well (IMHO he was highly realized). Then I heard of one highly realized Tibetan teacher who took tobacco in some form. Then I think a person like Dudjom Lingpa smoked but used it to demonstrate that one should not smoke. For most people it just clearly completely obscures them.

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Post by Johnny Dangerous » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:36 pm

kirtu wrote: Unfortunately some people are very susceptible to these substances. Some alcohol for many people should be fine though. But for some it's not.

Tobacco clearly just obscures ones inner body. I've seen one Zen teacher smoke (and he admitted that it was an addiction and didn't recommend it). It probably obscured him as well (IMHO he was highly realized). Then I heard of one highly realized Tibetan teacher who took tobacco in some form. Then I think a person like Dudjom Lingpa smoked but used it to demonstrate that one should not smoke. For most people it just clearly completely obscures them.

Kirt
I actually should have known better, once one has a few years of consistently addictive behavior with a substance, it's diffcult to ever handle it normally again. I'd convinced myself that it was long ago and now was different. To a degree I was right, itd take a lot to bring me back to my old patterns, but that doesn't change the fact that alcohol has a bad effect on me.
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