Weed is now legal in California

[Grigoris]

Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?

No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.

[climb-up]

Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?

No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.

Interesting.

[amanitamusc]

Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?

No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.

Do you observe this yourself?

[Grigoris]

Is the fast like a no-meat no-cheese no-alcohol kind of fast?

No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.

Do you observe this yourself?

I'm not Greek Orthodox Christian, I'm a Buddhist, remember? But I am a vegetarian and teetotaler anyway (except for tsog/ganachakra).

[amanitamusc]

No meat, no dairy products. Seafood is allowed on some days. At the closing stages, approaching the communion date, one does not eat oil either.

Do you observe this yourself?

I'm not Greek Orthodox Christian, I'm a Buddhist, remember? But I am a vegetarian and teetotaler anyway (except for tsog/ganachakra).

I just thought it may be something you did if your parents
do these practices.
I have no doubt about you being a Buddhist.

[Queequeg]

I have never understood the obsession with marijuana, both for and against. It seems to be some kind of hyper-dualistic fetish.

yeah... but...

...have you ever tried understanding the obsession with marijuana...

...on weed, man?

A couple of times with friends .... (literally a couple of times).

So anyway, what is the obsession about?

Kirt

Some people just love it. There really isn't much more to it. Some people are wine afficionados. Some people are just alcoholics dressing their addiction in the trappings of sophistication. Some people are happy with Thunderbird and Wild Irish Rose. Some people who really love pot, really get into it as an encompassing identity - hemp clothes, rasta colors and pot leaf motifs. Why do people adopt any obsession? Some grown men walk around in shirts with other men's names on them because they are such fans of their athletic capabilities. People are weird.

[dzogchungpa]

I have never understood the obsession with marijuana, both for and against. It seems to be some kind of hyper-dualistic fetish.

yeah... but...

...have you ever tried understanding the obsession with marijuana...

...on weed, man?

A couple of times with friends .... (literally a couple of times).

So anyway, what is the obsession about?

Kirt

Well, that's kind of like saying "I recited a couple of manis once. So, what's the obsession with Tibetan Buddhism about?" These things require steady application.

[Yavana]

Why do people adopt any obsession?

Prapañca.

[Queequeg]

Why do people adopt any obsession?

Prapañca.

'xa'tly.

[Yavana]

'xa'tly.

[Thomas Amundsen]

Why do people adopt any obsession?

Prapañca.

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[Queequeg]

'xa'tly.

'ts'how I pronounce it.

[Queequeg]

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The dude is definitely appreciating the legal weed.

that movie is 20 years old...

[Thomas Amundsen]

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The dude is definitely appreciating the legal weed.

that movie is 20 years old...

He most certainly is! This movie still makes me laugh after 20 years!

[dzogchungpa]

Why do people adopt any obsession?

Prapañca.

Or, in this case, potpañca.

[krodha]

https://flipboard.com/article/congress- ... forbes.com

In ya face, Jeff.

Hopefully same protection will extend to adult use.

[Joseph]

Not that relevant, but

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....

Learnt a valuable lesson! Hopefully this shame will ----> Restraint -----> Faith

Anyway... the moral is that whenever I think I can act out of equanimity that very thought should be enough to signal the dualistic contradiction inherent within , and that I think it's time to recognize my own limitations and take a vow against intoxicants .

[Johnny Dangerous]

Not that relevant, but

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....

Learnt a valuable lesson! Hopefully this shame will ----> Restraint -----> Faith

Anyway... the moral is that whenever I think I can act out of equanimity that very thought should be enough to signal the dualistic contradiction inherent within , and that I think it's time to recognize my own limitations and take a vow against intoxicants .

I had a similar experience recently with booze. I'd quit for 4 or 5 years after taking refuge after realizing how unhealthy, mind-dulling and repressive my drinking habit was. Recently I figured I'd allow myself to drink occasionally, predictably, things began to escalate and I found myself deciding to just quit for a month. After that month the difference in clarity was so notable that I've decided to go at least a year before even considering a casual drink. I didnt perceive that drinking a few times a month could have such an effect overall until I stopped again.

[kirtu]

...

After one small tipple of beer to many, yesterday involved a couple of very small bowls . eughhhhhhh .

I used to be a daily smoker, but it now just annihilates any clarity that was present - it's like iv'e gone 18 steps down the evolutionary chain....
...

I had a similar experience recently with booze. I'd quit for 4 or 5 years after taking refuge after realizing how unhealthy, mind-dulling and repressive my drinking habit was. Recently I figured I'd allow myself to drink occasionally, predictably, things began to escalate and I found myself deciding to just quit for a month. After that month the difference in clarity was so notable that I've decided to go at least a year before even considering a casual drink. I didnt perceive that drinking a few times a month could have such an effect overall until I stopped again.

Unfortunately some people are very susceptible to these substances. Some alcohol for many people should be fine though. But for some it's not.

Tobacco clearly just obscures ones inner body. I've seen one Zen teacher smoke (and he admitted that it was an addiction and didn't recommend it). It probably obscured him as well (IMHO he was highly realized). Then I heard of one highly realized Tibetan teacher who took tobacco in some form. Then I think a person like Dudjom Lingpa smoked but used it to demonstrate that one should not smoke. For most people it just clearly completely obscures them.

Kirt

[Johnny Dangerous]

Unfortunately some people are very susceptible to these substances. Some alcohol for many people should be fine though. But for some it's not.

Tobacco clearly just obscures ones inner body. I've seen one Zen teacher smoke (and he admitted that it was an addiction and didn't recommend it). It probably obscured him as well (IMHO he was highly realized). Then I heard of one highly realized Tibetan teacher who took tobacco in some form. Then I think a person like Dudjom Lingpa smoked but used it to demonstrate that one should not smoke. For most people it just clearly completely obscures them.

Kirt

I actually should have known better, once one has a few years of consistently addictive behavior with a substance, it's diffcult to ever handle it normally again. I'd convinced myself that it was long ago and now was different. To a degree I was right, itd take a lot to bring me back to my old patterns, but that doesn't change the fact that alcohol has a bad effect on me.