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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Queequeg » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:36 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:29 pm
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He means the Illuminati.
No I don't. Neck-bearded millennials mean the Illuminati, not me...
I don't know if its the millennials... the first I learned of that stuff was from a Boomer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Queequeg » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:39 pm

On a serious note, what exactly was so great about Oprah's speech? Just read a transcript. Meh. :shrug:

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Virgo » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:31 am

I didn't see the speech, just heard the buzz.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:54 am

Queequeg wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:39 pm
On a serious note, what exactly was so great about Oprah's speech? Just read a transcript. Meh. :shrug:

Nothing remarkable, to a friendly audience.
People will seemingly lap up anything these days as "resistance" to Drumpf. The bar was already so low on the left for what constituted functional mainstream politics, just bland pablum really. I'd expected that Trump's presidency might shore up people's expectations and make them demand more. Sadly, in many cases it's done the opposite so far. The result is adoration for the possible political aspirations of someone like Oprah, or things like fond liberal reminiscences of Bush II, one of the most odious things I've seen since the beginning of Drumpfs presidency. Yuck.
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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by TharpaChodron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:07 am

Virgo wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:31 am
I didn't see the speech, just heard the buzz.

Kevin
Same here. I just woke up one morning and the world was talking about Oprah for president, with no idea where this came from.

Tonight I'm hearing they have poll numbers showing Oprah with a 10% lead over Trump in 2020, 49% of voters would vote for her over 39% for Trump. If Trump wasn't already prez, I'd think this was a bizarre joke. Revolutionizing reality tv for sure. :shock:

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by TharpaChodron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:25 am

Grigoris wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:29 pm
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Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:20 pm
He means the Illuminati.
No I don't. Neck-bearded millennials mean the Illuminati, not me...
So who controls the president in your eyes? I'd say the locus of control is very hard to pinpoint, if at all possible. One side wants Nafta, Daca, ACA, etc. the other wants to dismantle those policies. If you mean multinational corporations, then why is there the back and forth on these issues? I ask because I sincerely want to know what you think.

I don't think it's as simple as the Bilderbergs are controlling all the world politics. There are forces that oppose each other, even at the highest levels. Hence Oprah is a billionaire who detests Trump, another billionaire's, policies. There are multiple powerful forces at work with differing agendas and the current and never ending chaos is a result.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Virgo » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:32 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:07 am

Same here. I just woke up one morning and the world was talking about Oprah for president, with no idea where this came from.

Tonight I'm hearing they have poll numbers showing Oprah with a 10% lead over Trump in 2020, 49% of voters would vote for her over 39% for Trump. If Trump wasn't already prez, I'd think this was a bizarre joke. Revolutionizing reality tv for sure. :shock:
I saw those something about one of the polls myself. It's telling.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by boda » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:36 am

I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I teared-up at one point. Still, and not that I’m unsympathetic to the cause, they layed on the MeToo theme rather heavily.


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Post by Kim O'Hara » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:58 am

If Oprah, then who next?
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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Norwegian » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:02 am

You forgot Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

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Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:38 am

Caitlyn Jenner is a size 13 shoe in for 2020.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by The Cicada » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:28 am

I voted for Obama, and for Trump, and if Trump doesn't get the Great Cartel Deflector built on the southern border, I'm voting for Oprah.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Grigoris » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 am

TharpaChodron wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:25 am
So who controls the president in your eyes?
Mainly business interests: petroleum corporations, arms industry lobbies, that sort of stuff. More economic than political control. Mind you, in capitalism economics and politics are the same thing.
If you mean multinational corporations, then why is there the back and forth on these issues?
Because different corporations have different (and sometimes conflicting) interests but a common goal: $$$
I don't think it's as simple as the Bilderbergs are controlling all the world politics.
The Bilderbergs don't control all world politics, that is a conspiracy theory up there on the same shelf with the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion.
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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by TharpaChodron » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:39 pm

Money=power and influence in general...I can't argue against that.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Queequeg » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm

Well if its just a matter of celebrity, my vote is for the Rock. Jesse Ventura had a similar background in professional wrestling and he did OK in Minnesota. A guy who regularly appeared in public dressed in nothing but his skivvies doesn't have much to hide. And he seems like a nice guy. His character on Ballers is pretty awesome.

AND he's got a positive connection to the #metoo movement, too:

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Grigoris » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:47 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm
Well if its just a matter of celebrity, my vote is for the Rock. Jesse Ventura had a similar background in professional wrestling and he did OK in Minnesota.
Idiocracy: it seems fiction has become reality.
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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Norwegian » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:51 pm

Keanu Reeves 2020!

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by amanitamusc » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:55 pm

TharpaChodron wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:39 pm
Money=power and influence in general...I can't argue against that.
This is a little dated but still very informative .https://www.amazon.ca/Big-Business-Read ... 0829804390

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Queequeg » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 pm

Grigoris wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:47 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm
Well if its just a matter of celebrity, my vote is for the Rock. Jesse Ventura had a similar background in professional wrestling and he did OK in Minnesota.
Idiocracy: it seems fiction has become reality.
It can't be all bad.

Look, if we take this idiocracy to its extreme, we might be able to avert wars in the future by holding head of state pay per view cage matches. In which case, again, the Rock 2020!
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Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

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Re: Will Oprah Run for President?

Post by Coëmgenu » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:25 pm

Queequeg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:18 pm
Grigoris wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:47 pm
Queequeg wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:18 pm
Well if its just a matter of celebrity, my vote is for the Rock. Jesse Ventura had a similar background in professional wrestling and he did OK in Minnesota.
Idiocracy: it seems fiction has become reality.
It can't be all bad.

Look, if we take this idiocracy to its extreme, we might be able to avert wars in the future by holding head of state pay per view cage matches. In which case, again, the Rock 2020!
Hillary would kick his ass. She is a very tough woman.

#CageMatchHillaryVSTrump: the redo of the election.
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