Korean War Over?

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Is the end of the Korean was a "good" thing?

Yes. War is abhorrent and these events have made the world a better place, however impermanently.
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No. There are many reasons why this is not a positive turn of events and I may or may not share these reasons in the thread below.
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No votes
Neutral.
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Nagarjuna's Tetralemma.
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Total votes: 17

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Malcolm » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm

shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:14 pm
So far not a shot has been fired and considering where we were a few months ago I'd have to say that it's not a bad outcome. Of course only time will tell.
The US got nothing in this deal at all.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
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-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by shaunc » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm
shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:14 pm
So far not a shot has been fired and considering where we were a few months ago I'd have to say that it's not a bad outcome. Of course only time will tell.
The US got nothing in this deal at all.
Except of course a chance at peace.
You don't have to make every post the winning post.

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Virgo » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:49 pm

shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm
shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:14 pm
So far not a shot has been fired and considering where we were a few months ago I'd have to say that it's not a bad outcome. Of course only time will tell.
The US got nothing in this deal at all.
Except of course a chance at peace.
As long as he doesn't pull the same shit he did with Iran.

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Malcolm » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:54 pm

shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm
shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:14 pm
So far not a shot has been fired and considering where we were a few months ago I'd have to say that it's not a bad outcome. Of course only time will tell.
The US got nothing in this deal at all.
Except of course a chance at peace.
The point is that there is no deal. Kim got to meet with the president of the US without having to give up a thing; while Trump agreed, without consulting anyone, that we were going to cancel military exercises with S Korea, oh, and he got to show Kim a ridiculous movie trailer.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Queequeg » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 am

Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:54 pm
shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:18 pm


The US got nothing in this deal at all.
Except of course a chance at peace.
The point is that there is no deal. Kim got to meet with the president of the US without having to give up a thing; while Trump agreed, without consulting anyone, that we were going to cancel military exercises with S Korea, oh, and he got to show Kim a ridiculous movie trailer.
One US Citizen won... Trump gets to tweet about what a great accomplishment that he sat down with Kim and got to know him well enough to assure Americans that a deal is forthcoming. The rubes who watch Hannity will all think Trump got the greatest deal ever, and his favorability ratings will get a bump. String enough of these photo ops together and there is the making of a reelection campaign.

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Those who, even with distracted minds,
Entered a stupa compound
And chanted but once, “Namo Buddhaya!”
Have certainly attained the path of the buddhas.

-Lotus Sutra, Expedient Means Chapter

There are beings with little dust in their eyes who are falling away because they do not hear the Dhamma. There will be those who will understand the Dhamma.
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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Malcolm » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:57 am

Queequeg wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 am
Malcolm wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:54 pm
shaunc wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 pm


Except of course a chance at peace.
The point is that there is no deal. Kim got to meet with the president of the US without having to give up a thing; while Trump agreed, without consulting anyone, that we were going to cancel military exercises with S Korea, oh, and he got to show Kim a ridiculous movie trailer.
One US Citizen won... Trump gets to tweet about what a great accomplishment that he sat down with Kim and got to know him well enough to assure Americans that a deal is forthcoming. The rubes who watch Hannity will all think Trump got the greatest deal ever, and his favorability ratings will get a bump. String enough of these photo ops together and there is the making of a reelection campaign.

SMH
Not so sure:
Fifth, Trump is a sucker. Kim is not. Say what you will about the North Korean despot, but consolidating power in his vipers’ nest regime, fielding a credible nuclear arsenal, improving his economy without easing political controls, playing nuclear brinkmanship with Trump and then, within weeks, getting the prestige of a superpower summit are political achievements of the first order. Machiavelli smiles from the grave.

As for Trump, the supposed success of the summit after the debacle in Quebec appeals to innate love of drama. He is where he loves to be: at the center of a stunned world’s attention.

But he is also in the place where he always gets himself, and everyone else in his orbit, into the worst trouble: panting for the object of his desire. That’s been true whether it’s the Plaza Hotel, Stormy Daniels and now the “ultimate deal” with Pyongyang. Oilman T. Boone Pickens had the smartest line on this when on Monday he tweeted: “Negotiating advice 101. When you want to make a deal real bad you will make a really bad deal.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opin ... columnists
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འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Virgo » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:10 am

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:57 am
Oilman T. Boone Pickens had the smartest line on this when on Monday he tweeted: “Negotiating advice 101. When you want to make a deal real bad you will make a really bad deal.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/12/opin ... columnists
Yes, and T. Boone Pickens knows how to make a deal, not just launch an empty brand (booyakasha!).

And the author is right, Machiavelli must be doing quite a bit of smiling lately, as the planet seemingly retrogrades back to a time before Modernity. I feel like Saturn retrograding towards Aries.

Kevin...

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Malcolm » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:19 am

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Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Virgo » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:25 am

That needs to go viral. Thanks Malcolm.

But Que, you are right in that the right are going to spin this and milk it like there is no tomorrow.

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Norwegian » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:33 am

This time, they get all they want, because Trump and his team are a bunch of dummies voted into office by another bunch of dummies. Getting played left and right nonstop.

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by jmlee369 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:50 am

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:19 am
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http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2018/06/ ... erent.html

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Re: Korean War Over?

Post by Lindama » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:09 pm

a rock and a hard place.... to tilt a bit... does the US expect Kim to give up his weapons and bluster with US military force in SKorea? and after what the US did to the country during the Korean War? Kim has seen enough regime changes. no apologies for Kim, but what about it.

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