No, democracy became achievable in Australia as a result of the realization of Australians that the Aboriginal people really had been oppressed with the concomitant will to create a fair society. This basically happened more or less during the Sidney Games in 2000.Wayfarer wrote: ↑Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:01 amYou mean, Prince George didn't manage to 'unfold' it back then?Wikipedia wrote:The Commonwealth of Australia came into being on 1 January 1901 with the federation of the six Australian colonies. The inaugural election took place on 29 and 30 March and the first Australian Parliament was opened on 9 May 1901 in Melbourne by Prince George, Duke of Cornwall and York, later King George V.
Sure Erdogan, Kurz, Orban, Kaczynski, Hitler, Mussolini, Putin, Pol Pot and his cronies. But demagogues are successful historically in countries that have not become democracies. We don't have many examples of demagogues arising in democracies (Kurz in Austria is the major counterexample and Le Pen would be a second major example if she were to be elected but I don't think the France will do that).CrazyWisdom wrote:I believe some Greek sophister predicted the conclusion of all democracies... mob rule and dictators.
Plato predicted that democracy would be subverted by the demagogue:
Ring any bells?Wikipedia wrote:A demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader) or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation Demagogues overturn established customs of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.
In the US we have the resumption of a form of the 1950 KKK south and midwest stoked by a kind of demagogue. But the US was never a democracy since it never created a successful basis for democracy to rise : something like 35% of the adult population of the country are disenfranchised from society on the basis of one or more form of structural prejudice, ~35% of the population are threatened with constant poverty and possible death often through a lack of health care. Democracy can only arise in stable societies where people's basic material needs are met and where the society has a substantial level of basic equality. This excludes a substantial minority in the US. This exact criticism of the US has been made by many people since at least the late 1950's across the political spectrum (but the critics generally saw the US as progressing toward an equitable society either due to material development or due to social development or both). In the 90's people like PJ O'Rourke specifically praised the US as an example for the world because of the broad expansion of legal fairness but this is demonstrably false since we have an unfair legal system targeting many people of color and almost all low income people.