Great Perfection: - The Essence of Pure Spirituality

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Great Perfection: - The Essence of Pure Spirituality

Post by Fa Dao » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:40 pm

Has anyone read this translation of the Choying Dzod by Shyalpa Tenzin Rinpoche?
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Perfection ... 9937623243
I have been working on Richard Barrons translation of the Choying Dzod as well as its commentary and wondered if this translation adds anything different...thanks
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Post by Fa Dao » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:02 am

Bump...so nobody has read this book?? bummer....
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Great Perfection: - The Essence of Pure Spirituality

Post by Sennin » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:30 am

Root verses are not radically different from Barrons translation, if IIRC 'primordial' is used in place of 'timeless'. It does feature the addition of the Tibetan so that's cool.

What I would like to see is an updated version of the commentary with a clear table of contents.
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Post by Fa Dao » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:43 pm

Does this one have a commentary or were you referring to Barrons?
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Post by Sennin » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:46 pm

Fa Dao wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:43 pm
Does this one have a commentary or were you referring to Barrons?
Barrons is the only English translation of the commentary I'm aware of. I wish it had the enumerations of the content.
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Post by Fa Dao » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:14 pm

oh ok...understand
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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Post by Pero » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:55 pm

The autocommentary was translated by Ives Waldo too and it used to be available for free if you asked him.

As for the OP, FWIW, I vaguely remember reading somewhere that it (STR's) wasn't very good but I'm afraid I can't remember any details.
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Post by XXIlluminatingVoid72 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:59 pm

It is pretty good, I certainly don’t find any problems with the text itself. Since it’s one of the few translations it’s good to have it to reference. It has the Tibetan and English side by side, and two other texts, tigle gyachen and calling the lama from afar. If one is studying the text I’d say it’s worth it.

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Post by Fa Dao » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:01 am

cool...thanks for the input...the more times I read this the more I understand why Patrul Rinpoche carried a copy of it wherever he went...
"But if you know how to observe yourself, you will discover your real nature, the primordial state, the state of Guruyoga, and then all will become clear because you will have discovered everything"-Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche

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