tomamundsen wrote:deepbluehum wrote:tomamundsen wrote:I read in a book about Bon (the oral tradition of zhang zhung) that their rushens are to distinguish the mind from the nature of the mind, which is equivalent to distinguishing between samsara and nirvana. Is this also true in Buddhist dzogchen? Are there any scriptural citations for this, be it sutra or tantra?
Oh definitely yes. Triyig Yeshe Lama and all other renditions of Dzogchen preliminaries have rushens, outer and inner, and all rushen practices are for distinguishing mind from nature of mind, which means distinguishing samsara from nirvana.
that was easy. this is a very profound teaching... something I will have to ponder about for weeks or months.
thanks!
Yes, it is a profound series of Teachings. Did my first Yeshe Lama in 1980 under Ven. Lama Gonpo Tsetan. ChNNR came to visit and they drank beer and sang Lama songs together. In Triyig Yeshe Lama these things are very secret. Now not so secret. You have to jump through a certification hoop, but you can find an excellent translation at:
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has the rushens and semzins from the Yeshe Lama and you just need to have direct introduction, on the web, (given almost every webcast) from ChNNR.
There is also a little book, I think available from SS Austria, that has the full instructions for the 21 Semzin.
The Te Yeshe Lama includes Tregchod and Togyal and is normally studied / practiced in a retreat setting. I highly recommend this retreat as it is a very concentrated redaction of the Longchen Nyingthig practice essence by the all knowing, Jigmed Lingpa. I believe that there is a Yeshe lama retreat in Oregon, USA, every Summer.
You might want to write to Sangye Khandro.
Rushen / semzin teachings are also held at various times in the DC, and I believe there was a full outer rushen retreat held in Russia (open to all with transmission) this Summer.
I have taught the outer Rushen / Semzins in Europe,with Oliver Leick, and it went well. Not so complicated - well maybe a little.
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