It is described as something which may be used, but no detail given.
('paste mixed with medicine modelled into a specific form')
It includes sang & serkyem, cakes and milk.
It is described as something which may be used, but no detail given.
There's no link to the image, so I'm not surprised. lolpemachophel wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:05 pm Here's a picture of the Dujom Naga torma.
Sorry, don't seem to be able to make this work and don't know how to delete.
Anyway, it's basically a zhay-se (food offering torma) with four-colored jewels, a Naga over the top, and kar-gyen with jewels.
Full moon day is the best day this month, but tomorrow is a good day too.
Full Moon day is not listed as positive for Naga Puja in the DC Calendar. Other practices, yes, but next positive day for Naga Puja in the DC is 2nd July. The Drukpa Calendar agrees.
I go with Lama Chodak's calendar. Generally speaking all the major days (full, new, first quarter, Dakini and Guru Rinpoche) are good days for Naga offerings, or neutral at the worst.
Sure, just didn't want to mislead any DC folk, this thread being about the DC Naga Puja.Grigoris wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:19 pmI go with Lama Chodak's calendar. Generally speaking all the major days (full, new, first quarter, Dakini and Guru Rinpoche) are good days for Naga offerings, or neutral at the worst.
True. Sorry.Mantrik wrote: ↑Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:21 pmSure, just didn't want to mislead any DC folk, this thread being about the DC Naga Puja.
I asked but nobody was able to tell me.Dorje Shedrub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:28 pm Has anyone found out what can be used as a talisman in the naga rite?
DS
Thanks.pemachophel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:07 pm Butter does not require the cow to be killed. Actually we use a number of animal products in Naga sang and puja, such as conch shell, crocodile claws, snake skin, none of which necessarily require the animal to be killed.
Miusk is a very potent specific poison to Nagas. When doing a wrathful practice to subdue Nagas, one sometimes anoints one's body (not saying where) with musk oil.
I'm pretty sure that's not how butter is made...if I recall correctly, it's more a "churning" the milk through several processes instead of killing the animal just for a slab.Mantrik wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:26 pmThanks.pemachophel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:07 pm Butter does not require the cow to be killed. Actually we use a number of animal products in Naga sang and puja, such as conch shell, crocodile claws, snake skin, none of which necessarily require the animal to be killed.
Miusk is a very potent specific poison to Nagas. When doing a wrathful practice to subdue Nagas, one sometimes anoints one's body (not saying where) with musk oil.
Yes, conch can be for fluids like milk and also for sound, and of course as a mala.
Naga Kanya holds one, of course. I have a transmission for Naga Kanya as well, a very simple affair.
Commercially produced butter, like milk, does of course involve slaughter of calves, but not essentially so in old India I'm sure. I tend to use olive oil in my butter lamps, but wondered about the old tradition and the Nagas.
If people use tea lights there are plant wax ones available which I fancy may be less 'polluting' in Naga pujas than petroleum wax ones.
Interesting wrathful use of musk oil!
In commercial dairy farming humans get the milk intended for the calves. So many of the calves are therefore surplus to requirements and are killed. Personally, I wouldn't use commercially produced butter at all because of that. Let's not get too far off the topic though. In an Indian village the chances are they would not take so much of the milk, and using the butter would not be at the expense of a calf's life.Tenma wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:46 pmI'm pretty sure that's not how butter is made...if I recall correctly, it's more a "churning" the milk through several processes instead of killing the animal just for a slab.Mantrik wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:26 pmThanks.pemachophel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:07 pm Butter does not require the cow to be killed. Actually we use a number of animal products in Naga sang and puja, such as conch shell, crocodile claws, snake skin, none of which necessarily require the animal to be killed.
Miusk is a very potent specific poison to Nagas. When doing a wrathful practice to subdue Nagas, one sometimes anoints one's body (not saying where) with musk oil.
Yes, conch can be for fluids like milk and also for sound, and of course as a mala.
Naga Kanya holds one, of course. I have a transmission for Naga Kanya as well, a very simple affair.
Commercially produced butter, like milk, does of course involve slaughter of calves, but not essentially so in old India I'm sure. I tend to use olive oil in my butter lamps, but wondered about the old tradition and the Nagas.
If people use tea lights there are plant wax ones available which I fancy may be less 'polluting' in Naga pujas than petroleum wax ones.
Interesting wrathful use of musk oil!
It can be anything that is blessed (empowered) with the practice. In the booklet it mentions Rinpoche left a kind of wooden board in Merigar West.Mantrik wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:55 pmI asked but nobody was able to tell me.Dorje Shedrub wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:28 pm Has anyone found out what can be used as a talisman in the naga rite?
DS
The core of the practice may come very probably from Adzom Drukpa, just like the Sang. Rinpoche picked it because it's very concise and simple. The format of either short or medium tun is added to give it a form and connect with transmission.