Dharmata teachings.

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:34 pm

muni wrote:Your great merits, good potential dzogchungpa.

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Indeed.

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby tomamundsen » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:22 pm

RE: The Truth of Not Knowing

Any thoughts on how this talk relates to the idea of "invigorating the clarity aspect"? He does mention at the end how "not knowing" leads to "knowing", but the "not knowing" was very heavily emphasized in this talk.

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:38 pm

tomamundsen wrote:RE: The Truth of Not Knowing

Any thoughts on how this talk relates to the idea of "invigorating the clarity aspect"?

I don't know. :smile:
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:15 pm

Just stumbled across this nice picture:

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:46 pm

The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253
The true condition is beyond numbers. If we think in terms of an "individual being" this means that we are limiting, and consequently everything becomes complicated. If we want to understand, then we must not limit. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby MalaBeads » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:07 am

dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:51 am

muni wrote:By Anam Thubten. Now Unconventional Truth still running.

http://www.dharmata.org/teachings/

:namaste:

BTW, that video is here now:
https://vimeo.com/71021968
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby Adamantine » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:33 am

MalaBeads wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


Source / link? I have to see it to believe it.
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby MalaBeads » Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:23 pm

Adamantine wrote:
MalaBeads wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


Source / link? I have to see it to believe it.


Sorry to disappoint you, Adamantine, but I am unable to provide anymore than my memory on this. As I said, i think it was in the Shambhala Sun, but as you are undoubtably aware, even this could be in error. That Dudjom Rinpoche replied to the question "How are you" with "miserable" I am not in doubt about tho.

If it is truly imperative that you "see it to believe it" I would suggest contacting the publishers of Shambhala Sun and asking them to look at old interviews with Dudjom Rinpoche. Or perhaps someone else whose word you will accept also remembers. This is all I can provide.
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby muni » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:27 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


:namaste:
http://www.tenzinzopa.com/Ebooks/Cttb_B ... mplete.pdf

Rest in natural great peace this exhausted mind,
Beaten helplessly by karma and neurotic thoughts
Like the relentless fury of the pounding waves
In the infinite ocean of samsara.
Rest in natural great peace. — Nyoshul Khen Rinpoche

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:50 pm

MalaBeads wrote:
Adamantine wrote:
MalaBeads wrote:For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


Source / link? I have to see it to believe it.


Sorry to disappoint you, Adamantine, but I am unable to provide anymore than my memory on this. As I said, i think it was in the Shambhala Sun, but as you are undoubtably aware, even this could be in error. That Dudjom Rinpoche replied to the question "How are you" with "miserable" I am not in doubt about tho.

If it is truly imperative that you "see it to believe it" I would suggest contacting the publishers of Shambhala Sun and asking them to look at old interviews with Dudjom Rinpoche. Or perhaps someone else whose word you will accept also remembers. This is all I can provide.

I have to say I also find it a little hard to believe that Dudjom Rinpoche would have responded like that, even if he actually was miserable.
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:23 pm

Anyway, :focus:

I listened to that "Unconventional Truth" talk last night and I have to say it was another strong presentation by AT, although perhaps a bit too perennialist for some people's taste. :smile:
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby muni » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:28 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
muni wrote:By Anam Thubten. Now Unconventional Truth still running.

http://www.dharmata.org/teachings/

:namaste:

BTW, that video is here now:
https://vimeo.com/71021968


:namaste:
http://www.tenzinzopa.com/Ebooks/Cttb_B ... mplete.pdf

Rest in natural great peace this exhausted mind,
Beaten helplessly by karma and neurotic thoughts
Like the relentless fury of the pounding waves
In the infinite ocean of samsara.
Rest in natural great peace. — Nyoshul Khen Rinpoche

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:38 am

A talk recorded February 5, 2016, at Seattle Insight Meditation Center:
https://vimeo.com/154781050
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby lelopa » Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:32 am

MalaBeads wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


this quotation is from the book: "entering the diamond way" of ole nydahl!
i only know the german versions - it is page 176 of the first edition - in the chapter "Kalu Rinpoche".
it was a question how he feels because of his acute asthma
ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby MalaBeads » Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:20 pm

lelopa wrote:
MalaBeads wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


this quotation is from the book: "entering the diamond way" of ole nydahl!
i only know the german versions - it is page 176 of the first edition - in the chapter "Kalu Rinpoche".
it was a question how he feels because of his acute asthma


Thanks for posting this. I have never read "Entering the Diamond Way" but your post does jar my memory a bit. Most likely I read the above quote in the Vajradhatu Sun and not the Shambhala publication. And yes, he did have asthma and was replying to that aspect of the question. Again, thanks for responding. That helped me remember more. :smile:
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby dzogchungpa » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:36 pm

AT with Chakung Jigme Wangdrak Rinpoche at the opening of his new center in El Cerrito, Longsal Ling:

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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby Adamantine » Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:20 pm

lelopa wrote:
MalaBeads wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:The Choice to be Free: https://vimeo.com/148825253


For some reason, i am reminded of an interview with Dudjom Rinpoche that I read a year or so before he passed away. It was in the Shambhala Sun and someone asked him how he was and he said "miserable."

This really made an impression on me because although i had never met Dudjom Rinpoche he was supposedly one of the great masters of his day so how could he be " miserable"?

The choice to be free may lie in being exactly how you are. Revelation.


this quotation is from the book: "entering the diamond way" of ole nydahl!
i only know the german versions - it is page 176 of the first edition - in the chapter "Kalu Rinpoche".
it was a question how he feels because of his acute asthma


So it's actually supposed to be a quote from Kalu Rinpoche, not Dudjom Rinpoche? ? :shrug:
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby MalaBeads » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:04 pm

It is a quote from Dudjom Rinpoche that apparently appeared in a german book in a chapter called "Kalu Rinpoche". Since I have not read the book i dont know who the quote was attributed to there but I can assure you it is not a quote from Kalu Rinpoche but from Dudjom Rinpoche.

I think that is clear from how Lelopa presenetd it but not everyone reads the same way.
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Re: Dharmata teachings.

Postby lelopa » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:56 am

yes - it is in the chapter called "kalu rinpoche"
ole &hannah nydahl asked this question to dudjom rinpoche & he answered
ཨོཾ་ཨཱཿཧཱུྃ་བོ་དྷི་ཙིཏྟ་མ་ཧཱ་སུ་ཁ་ཛྙཱ་ན་དྷཱརྟུ་ཨཱཿ


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