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Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by thigle » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:16 pm

Continuation from here
Simon E. wrote:The point Malcolm is making thigle, is that 'lobster' has declared himself to be an arhat.
But another much more important point is Simon, that some people declared himself to realised an authentic introduction. And some of them, now cracke jokes about lobster, unity & co. They can't see the dirt under their own nose.

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Re: Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by krodha » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:20 pm

The pot calling the kettle black.

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Re: Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by Malcolm » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:25 pm

thigle wrote:Continuation from here
Simon E. wrote:The point Malcolm is making thigle, is that 'lobster' has declared himself to be an arhat.
But another much more important point is Simon, that some people declared himself to realised an authentic introduction.
Ummmm, no.

Someone merely declared that they understood something.
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Re: Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by Simon E. » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:26 pm

I object to being quoted out of context in a new thread in order for you to score points thigle.
I suggest that you ( and lobster... ) stick to forums where the members are more credulous than those here.
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Re: Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by krodha » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:32 pm

At any rate thigle, you seem to continually confuse the basis, path and result, cutting the path out altogether. Recognition of one's nature does not mean that unfabricated effortlessness suddenly ensues and there is no reason to practice for the sake of stability and so on. You reference the ZZNG as a support for your claims, yet their system is dead set on cultivating stability after recognition, setting up various retreats of different lengths, implementing various practices just to achieve stability in the natural state.

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Re: Dzogchenpa's nose

Post by Grigoris » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:35 pm

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