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by Andrew108 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:16 pm
Malcolm wrote:Citation, Andrew.
In the Mejung Chapter 23. The Marvelous Primordial State: The Mejung Tantra.
"When one becomes expert in all views, all training collapses. Any form of training is not the [real] training. Not training in anything is the training of me, the wise one."
About this passage Nubchen Sangye Yeshe states:
"When explaining that contemplation is beyond training , [if one applies] concepts and practice to the view, there arises the concept of [the view as] definitely established, that is, one does not see that it is not to be applied [with the mind]. Therefore [the citation] explains that the training is beyond concepts and application."
And further to this:
"Those who desire enlightenment do not attain enlightenment and are far from the supreme enlightenment like the earth and sky [are far from one another]."
Nubchen Sangye Yeshe states:
"Holding a view connected to hope and fear is a deviation. Through such [an approach] they do not meet the true principle."
About this ChNN states:
"Those who desire to become totally realized will not obtain what they wish for. They are far from realization, as earth and sky are far apart from each other. This means that one must not remain in any kind of concept, even the concept of becoming realized."
From Kunjed Gyalpo:
"Within this (presence) there do not exist even words for the activities (of travelling to) some place (of enlightenment obtained) through forced discipline. When (followers of cause-oriented vehicles) use the PA (letters to point out the unborn state of ) A, they desire to produce (an enlightenment which is only) the bliss of illusion." Quatrain 34
Added to this in the Kunsal says:
"Spiritual levels and liberation stories are far from supreme enlightenment. Supreme enlightenment is the real condition which cannot be travelled. The desire to travel is very far from wisdom."
Then Longchenpa says in the Chöying Dzö:
"Because everything is primordially liberated in space, there is no need for anyone to now liberate anything with effort. Because it is senseless to apply effort (to liberate anything), do not, do not, do not struggle and practice. Do not view, do not view, do not view the phenomena of mind. Do not meditate, do not meditate, do not meditate the phenomena of mins=d. Do not analyse, do not analyse, do not analyse objects and mind. Do not realize, do not realize, do not realize the goal of hope and fear. Do not reject, do not reject, do not reject emotions and karma. Do not accept, do not accept, do not accept the real teaching. Do not bind, do not bind, do not bind your mind-stream."
Then KG Chapter 53
"My (teaching) is that all phenomena (are already) accomplished, beyond the desire (for some goal). Because (everything is already) accomplished as the essence (of equality), there is no desire (for the phenomena of samsara) and no desire (for the phenomena of nirvana)."
"Accomplishment is not spoken about by me, but is a word (spoken) by followers who desire to accomplish some goal (based upon) causes."
There are so many references to practicing without a goal that I can't post them all here.
The Blessed One said:
"What is the All? Simply the eye & forms, ear & sounds, nose & aromas, tongue & flavors, body & tactile sensations, intellect & ideas. This, monks, is called the All. Anyone who would say, 'Repudiating this All, I will describe another,' if questioned on what exactly might be the grounds for his statement, would be unable to explain, and furthermore, would be put to grief. Why? Because it lies beyond range." Sabba Sutta.