Dzogchen Cycles

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Dzogchen Cycles

Post by shanehanner » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:32 pm

Hi,

I keep seeing different teachers with different "cycles" of teachings and would like to know what the differences are?

For example,this is from Tara Mandalas website...

"He also said that the Dzinpa Rangdröl cycle was very complete starting with Ngöndro, followed by the yidam practices of Tsogyel Karmo (White Tsogyel) and Tröma, and then proceeding through the six yogas, and ending with Dzog Chen in a section very similar to Tri Yeshe Lama (Jigme Lingpa’s Dzog Chen cycle from Longchen Nyingtig) which includes complete Trekchö and Tögal instructions. He also mentioned that Dzinpa Rangdröl contains several Chöd practices and many Dzog Chen men­ngags (pith instructions)."

So, what are the different cycles? Is there a certain period that they start? Are some considered better than others? Any background info would be great!

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Re: Dzogchen Cycles

Post by Malcolm » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:44 pm

shanehanner wrote:Hi,

I keep seeing different teachers with different "cycles" of teachings and would like to know what the differences are?

For example,this is from Tara Mandalas website...

"He also said that the Dzinpa Rangdröl cycle was very complete starting with Ngöndro, followed by the yidam practices of Tsogyel Karmo (White Tsogyel) and Tröma, and then proceeding through the six yogas, and ending with Dzog Chen in a section very similar to Tri Yeshe Lama (Jigme Lingpa’s Dzog Chen cycle from Longchen Nyingtig) which includes complete Trekchö and Tögal instructions. He also mentioned that Dzinpa Rangdröl contains several Chöd practices and many Dzog Chen men­ngags (pith instructions)."

So, what are the different cycles? Is there a certain period that they start? Are some considered better than others? Any background info would be great!
"Cycle" is a translation of the Tibetan "skor." This word means something like cycle, and in this sense, we are using the term like in the Wagner's Ring Cycle, a series of interrelated but independent works.
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Re: Dzogchen Cycles

Post by heart » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:45 pm

A cycle is a collection of practices that where revealed together, so it is terma. In particular many Nyingtik teachings are just like the Dzinpa Rangdrol above. A big cycle is for example the Longchen Nyingtik; http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... n_Nyingtik
A small cycle is for example Chetsun Nyingtik http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... n_Nyingtik
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Re: Dzogchen Cycles

Post by kalden yungdrung » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:42 am

heart wrote:A cycle is a collection of practices that where revealed together, so it is terma. In particular many Nyingtik teachings are just like the Dzinpa Rangdrol above. A big cycle is for example the Longchen Nyingtik; http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... n_Nyingtik
A small cycle is for example Chetsun Nyingtik http://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?titl ... n_Nyingtik
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Tashi delek,

In Bön Dzogchen we have different Dzogchen Teachings. One is the Zhang Zung Nyen Gyud and that is called also a Dzogchen cycle of Teachings.
These teachings do not belong to Terma but are nevertheless called Dzogchen Cycle of Teachings. It is mainly oral transmitted.

Maybe cycle could mean, a complete set of Dzogchen Teachings ?
Then can Terma be seen as complete, interrupted or partial ?


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Re: Dzogchen Cycles

Post by Thomas Amundsen » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:42 pm

kalden yungdrung wrote:
Maybe cycle could mean, a complete set of Dzogchen Teachings ?
Then can Terma be seen as complete, interrupted or partial ?
In Nyingma at least, a cycle can be a terma. So, the two are not mutually exclusive.

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