Retreat Spots

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Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:33 pm

Hi Everyone

I thought it would be helpful, if we could gather our common knowledge about retreat places, specially those suited for Dzogchen practices that require very specific conditions (i.e outer Rushen , Dark retreat, Trekchö & Thögal...)

I will post soon about some spots I know of.

Cheers everyone
M

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby KrisW » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:23 pm

Marc wrote:Hi Everyone

I thought it would be helpful, if we could gather our common knowledge about retreat places, specially those suited for Dzogchen practices that require very specific conditions (i.e outer Rushen , Dark retreat, Trekchö & Thögal...)

I will post soon about some spots I know of.

Cheers everyone
M


It says in the Luminous Expanse:
A snowy retreat, an empty valley, a mountain peak, or a charnel ground, In an extremely remote place, at a place that is bright and elevated, These are the practice abodes of the fortunate ones.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby dzogchungpa » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:30 pm

Marc wrote:Hi Everyone

I thought it would be helpful, if we could gather our common knowledge about retreat places, specially those suited for Dzogchen practices that require very specific conditions (i.e outer Rushen , Dark retreat, Trekchö & Thögal...)

I will post soon about some spots I know of.

Cheers everyone
M

Does Trekcho require very specific conditions?
The true condition is beyond numbers. If we think in terms of an "individual being" this means that we are limiting, and consequently everything becomes complicated. If we want to understand, then we must not limit. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 am

RikudouSennin wrote:
It says in the Luminous Expanse:
A snowy retreat, an empty valley, a mountain peak, or a charnel ground, In an extremely remote place, at a place that is bright and elevated, These are the practice abodes of the fortunate ones.


Hi RikudouSennin

Thx for the textual reminder ! :thumbsup:

But what I hope to gather are concrete informations about actual retreat places, ideally tested by us

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:15 am

dzogchungpa wrote:Does Trekcho require very specific conditions?


Hi Dzogchungpa
If we are aimimg for the most supportive secondary conditions for an intensive retreat, yes indeed !

Some characteristics by memory:
A pure, unpolluted, secluded place, far the noises, business & wordly distractions.
A "sun protected" practice spot with a vast, open panoramic vista on an unimpeded sky...
Weather conditions that "provide" as frequently as possible a pure, cloudless blue sky.
Fresh / Mild temperatures in order not to disturb the inner winds or contribute to drowsiness Etc...

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Virgo » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:32 am

RikudouSennin wrote: A snowy retreat

Aside from retreats I like snowy places alot and I particularly like walking out in the woods after a snow. There is something about the fresh, crisp and clean air and the fact that there is a white manifestation of the water element all around you, on the trees, and earth that is pure and refreshing.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby tomamundsen » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:42 am

Virgo wrote:
RikudouSennin wrote: A snowy retreat

Aside from retreats I like snowy places alot and I particularly like walking out in the woods after a snow. There is something about the fresh, crisp and clean air and the fact that there is a white manifestation of the water element all around you, on the trees, and earth that is pure and refreshing.

Kevin

Hell yea man! So, is that White Mamaki? ;)

I haven't seen snow in so long... but I'd love to do a retreat in a snowy mountainous place one day!

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:58 pm

Hi Everyone

So, here are some concrete infos:

Dark Retreat Facilities
Shenten Dargye Ling (France)
http://shenten.org/

Karma Ling (France)
http://www.rimay.net/

Dejam Ling (France)
http://dzogchen-fr.org/dejam-ling/

Merigar (Italy)
http://www.dzogchen.it/en/

Triten Norbutse (Nepal)
http://www.triten.org/TR/

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby KrisW » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:47 pm

http://www.mountainlightsanctuary.com/directory

Although this isn't a Buddhist center it still is a pretty chill place if you want to do a retreat. The host doesn't bother you at all. There is also the option to do ground work in exchange for shelter.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Virgo » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:03 pm

tomamundsen wrote:Hell yea man! So, is that White Mamaki? ;)

Oh, Im not sure.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:12 pm

RikudouSennin wrote:http://www.mountainlightsanctuary.com/directory

Although this isn't a Buddhist center it still is a pretty chill place if you want to do a retreat. The host doesn't bother you at all. There is also the option to do ground work in exchange for shelter.


Thx for sharing RidukouSennin !


Ok, I'm going to be slightly off-topic.
The following spot is definetely not suited for the practices I mentionned in the OP (except for "discrete" Trekchö), but it is a gorgeous, peacefull monastery:
http://watpatamwua.com
It is in north-western Thailand, close to Myanmar.
A great, great spot for a "chillax" retreat.
On top of being beautiful, it is super, super clean as per asian standard, and food is really good.
A perfect spot for a pennyless practionner, since as per the Theravadin custom, the place runs on donations...

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Kunzang Tobgyal » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:50 am

Great thread.

I'm in Tenerife at Dzamling Gar presently and rooming with the kind folks who run http://tsegyalgarwest.org/
They shared with me pictures and information about the place and it seems to be a very good spot for personal solitary retreat. Lots of space. A perfect place for outer rushen, and the other practices mentioned in the OP. Although as of yet, no dark retreat facility. Apparently Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has said it's an ideal place for personal retreat.




Cheers,

Drew.

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Postby DGA » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:32 pm

Kunzang Tobgyal wrote:Great thread.

I'm in Tenerife at Dzamling Gar presently and rooming with the kind folks who run http://tsegyalgarwest.org/
They shared with me pictures and information about the place and it seems to be a very good spot for personal solitary retreat. Lots of space. A perfect place for outer rushen, and the other practices mentioned in the OP. Although as of yet, no dark retreat facility. Apparently Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has said it's an ideal place for personal retreat.




Cheers,

Drew.


Hi Drew-- I just returned to the States from Dzamling Gar. I think we may have met there--I'm the ugly white guy with the big red beard whose order at the cafe got mixed up with yours.

Tsegyalgar West is one of my favorite places on planet Earth. It is a delight. It is quite rustic, especially in comparison to DzamlingGar. I have not done a personal retreat there but I can confirm from others that personal retreat is very possible there.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby _R_ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:35 pm

Your body is the ideal place.
I'm the best.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Kunzang Tobgyal » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:09 pm

DGA wrote:
Kunzang Tobgyal wrote:Great thread.

I'm in Tenerife at Dzamling Gar presently and rooming with the kind folks who run http://tsegyalgarwest.org/
They shared with me pictures and information about the place and it seems to be a very good spot for personal solitary retreat. Lots of space. A perfect place for outer rushen, and the other practices mentioned in the OP. Although as of yet, no dark retreat facility. Apparently Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has said it's an ideal place for personal retreat.


Cheers,

Drew.


Hi Drew-- I just returned to the States from Dzamling Gar. I think we may have met there--I'm the ugly white guy with the big red beard whose order at the cafe got mixed up with yours.

Tsegyalgar West is one of my favorite places on planet Earth. It is a delight. It is quite rustic, especially in comparison to DzamlingGar. I have not done a personal retreat there but I can confirm from others that personal retreat is very possible there.



I remember you well!

It seems like it would be a really good place for a longer solitary retreat. I may end up there next winter.


Great to sort of meet you!


Drew.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby dzogchungpa » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:25 am

_R_ wrote:Your body is the ideal place.

As Jigme Lingpa said:
If the meditator is able to use whatever occurs in his life as the path, his body becomes a retreat hut.
The true condition is beyond numbers. If we think in terms of an "individual being" this means that we are limiting, and consequently everything becomes complicated. If we want to understand, then we must not limit. - Chögyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Virgo » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:39 am

dzogchungpa wrote:As Jigme Lingpa said:
If the meditator is able to use whatever occurs in his life as the path, his body becomes a retreat hut.

This reminds me of ChNN.

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:08 am

Kunzang Tobgyal wrote:Great thread.

I'm in Tenerife at Dzamling Gar presently and rooming with the kind folks who run http://tsegyalgarwest.org/
They shared with me pictures and information about the place and it seems to be a very good spot for personal solitary retreat. Lots of space. A perfect place for outer rushen, and the other practices mentioned in the OP. Although as of yet, no dark retreat facility. Apparently Chogyal Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche has said it's an ideal place for personal retreat.

Cheers,

Drew.



Thx a lot Drew for sharing ! Much appreciated :) :namaste:

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Marc » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:11 am

Virgo wrote:
dzogchungpa wrote:As Jigme Lingpa said:
If the meditator is able to use whatever occurs in his life as the path, his body becomes a retreat hut.

This reminds me of ChNN.

Virgo


And yet our precious ChNN just taught the Yangti Nagpo in Tenerife, for which your body as a retreat hut is not enough...

So please everyone, let's try to stay on topic ! :)

Thx :anjali:

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Re: Retreat Spots

Postby Manju » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:40 pm

Regarding:

Triten Norbutse (Nepal)
http://www.triten.org/TR/

I was there in 1994 on a visit.
At that time it was quite far from Kathmandu, very peaceful outskirts area.

Nowadays the city houses are near at the monastery.
Kathmandu has grown.

But they might have a retreat center in the Himalayas.

Manju


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