Skillful means and Dzogchen

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by Virgo » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:08 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:16 pm
Then don't post on forums and close the section completely :)
CedarTree, what section was closed?

And if you are referring to me (not sure if you still are), I am not a qualified teacher. I share here what I feel is alllowable, and keep back what people should hear from their teachers alone.

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by CedarTree » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:22 pm

Virgo wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:08 pm
CedarTree wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:16 pm
Then don't post on forums and close the section completely :)
CedarTree, what section was closed?

And if you are referring to me (not sure if you still are), I am not a qualified teacher. I share here what I feel is alllowable, and keep back what people should hear from their teachers alone.

Kevin
Kevin wasn't addressing you at all :)

Love your input and contribution.

I was addressing this kind of proto attitude of "orthodox" that sometimes rears it's head.

Sometimes I think it's deeply wise and other times I think it's deeply entrenched in certain people feeling that they understand a "good" reality and how others should live and practice their lives and search. Kind of a them putting a god status on their provisional attitudes.

I have and others as well posted numerous times the understanding that things differ from a one on one with a teacher to shooting the shit on philosophy and subjects of interest.

For those that want to refuse talking on subjects of interest they don't have to participate and or the forums and sections can be closed.
(Absurdity used to point it out as well as conceding it is more complex)

But sometimes by pushing people you get more and priceless info that matches up to other "language" used in the traditions that those of us that are practiced in may then be able to relate to Dzogchen.

For instance I was reading the post on "Shine" and found it incredible interesting. How ever would we be able to gather this kind of stuff unless pressed and explored.

I just get tired of those that never seem to add much than telling others how it should be.

I.e. If you have cards show them if not that's okay but don't get involved.

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by CedarTree » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:25 pm

Norwegian wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:00 pm
CedarTree,

This isn't Tao Bums, just FYI.
FYI relax and stop coming at me. This is a forum regardless. Shoot the shit and help share info so others in different traditions can maybe understand the similarities and differences despite different "languages" we have about shared practice information and philosophical subjects.

I post here because of the deep information that people like Kevin and Malcolm have even if I have to press and almost "trick" sometimes to get it lol.

I get where you are coming from and I respect it and you but sometimes you push it to far.

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by Malcolm » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 pm

CedarTree wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:25 pm

I post here because of the deep information that people like Kevin and Malcolm have even if I have to press and almost "trick" sometimes to get it lol.
If you are interested in Dzogchen teachings, get thee to a Dzogchen master.
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-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by dzogchungpa » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:40 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 pm
If you are interested in Dzogchen teachings, get thee to a Dzogchen master.

Or, at least, a Dzogchennery.
There is not only nothingness because there is always, and always can manifest. - Thinley Norbu Rinpoche

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by florin » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:20 pm

dzogchungpa wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:40 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 pm
If you are interested in Dzogchen teachings, get thee to a Dzogchen master.

Or, at least, a Dzogchennery.
You mean a dzogchen nunnery ?
The nature of diverse phenomena is non-dual. This means that both pure vision and impure vision are a manifestation of the energy of the primordial state. Even though in reality there is no duality, everything manifests separately. KG

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by lelopa » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:00 am

florin wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:20 pm
dzogchungpa wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:40 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 pm
If you are interested in Dzogchen teachings, get thee to a Dzogchen master.

Or, at least, a Dzogchennery.
You mean a dzogchen nunnery ?
:lol:
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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by CedarTree » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:59 pm

lelopa wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:00 am
florin wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:20 pm
dzogchungpa wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:40 pm



Or, at least, a Dzogchennery.
You mean a dzogchen nunnery ?
:lol:
I thought he was going to recommend himself there for a minute :tongue:

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Re: Skillful means and Dzogchen

Post by lelopa » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:55 am

CedarTree wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:59 pm
lelopa wrote:
Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:00 am
florin wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:20 pm


You mean a dzogchen nunnery ?
:lol:
I thought he was going to recommend himself there for a minute :tongue:

nightwatcher in a Dzogchen-nunnery is a highly recommended job
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