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Post by jnanasutra » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:33 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:28 am
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:03 am
Hmmmm :reading: chapter 68, “Index,” talks about a tantra called Marici Tantra. Maybe this Tantra is related to Özer Chenma?
Yes
Is this Tantra a Dzogchen Tantra or a Maha or Anu Yoga Tantra? Does it exist in any Tibetan collections? Any idea of its content? The text says it describes the rays and so on...
Thanks!

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Post by Malcolm » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:22 pm

jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:33 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:28 am
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:03 am
Hmmmm :reading: chapter 68, “Index,” talks about a tantra called Marici Tantra. Maybe this Tantra is related to Özer Chenma?
Yes
Is this Tantra a Dzogchen Tantra or a Maha or Anu Yoga Tantra? Does it exist in any Tibetan collections? Any idea of its content? The text says it describes the rays and so on...
Thanks!
It is a man ngag sde tantra belonging to the unsurpassed, secret cycle. It is a very interesting little text.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by jnanasutra » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:52 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:22 pm
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:33 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:28 am


Yes
Is this Tantra a Dzogchen Tantra or a Maha or Anu Yoga Tantra? Does it exist in any Tibetan collections? Any idea of its content? The text says it describes the rays and so on...
Thanks!
It is a man ngag sde tantra belonging to the unsurpassed, secret cycle. It is a very interesting little text.
I can find it in the Vima Nyingtik (in all TRBC collections)? Do you happen to know the title? Thanks.

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Post by Malcolm » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:54 pm

jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:22 pm
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:33 pm


Is this Tantra a Dzogchen Tantra or a Maha or Anu Yoga Tantra? Does it exist in any Tibetan collections? Any idea of its content? The text says it describes the rays and so on...
Thanks!
It is a man ngag sde tantra belonging to the unsurpassed, secret cycle. It is a very interesting little text.
I can find it in the Vima Nyingtik (in all TRBC collections)? Do you happen to know the title? Thanks.
No, it is not there, it is in the mtshams brag snying ma rgyud 'bum.
Buddhahood in This Life
འ༔ ཨ༔ ཧ༔ ཤ༔ ས༔ མ༔


[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by jnanasutra » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:37 am

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:54 pm
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:22 pm


It is a man ngag sde tantra belonging to the unsurpassed, secret cycle. It is a very interesting little text.
I can find it in the Vima Nyingtik (in all TRBC collections)? Do you happen to know the title? Thanks.
No, it is not there, it is in the mtshams brag snying ma rgyud 'bum.
Looking for it, can’t find it. Do you know which volume (1-14 ati yoga) in which it is located? Thanks :namaste:

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Post by jnanasutra » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:39 am

Heck, if you know the page, Malcolm, that would be even better :thanks:

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Post by jnanasutra » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:00 am

Malcolm wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:53 pm
jnanasutra wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:22 am
If Gzhon nu Dpa’ bo stobs ldan is teaching a retinue (which includes Vajrapani) that is merely an emanation of his own pristine consciousness, then when this buddha sees the appearances of six realms of samsara it must be the case that the beings in each realm must also be emanations of his pristine consciousness. I understand the idea of the Yogācāra container universe model, however, this model works from the perspective of a deluded mind. So how does this buddha view sentient beings? Are sentient beings similar to the retinue in that they are his own emanations? I know the general phrases, “buddhas don’t see sentient beings” and “sentient beings do not exist.” That is not what I am getting at. I am trying to understand this from a Man ngag sde perspective. Any thoughts? Thanks. :smile:
From the commentary on the Blazing Lamp:

Though everything (such as living beings, the inanimate and the animate) appears to each person individually as the unceasing pristine consciousness of vidyā, this is not seen by people of the common vehicles who grasp intellectual analysis.
Wow :shock:
Kinda what I suspected... :reading:

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Post by jnanasutra » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:30 am

Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:54 pm
jnanasutra wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:22 pm


It is a man ngag sde tantra belonging to the unsurpassed, secret cycle. It is a very interesting little text.
I can find it in the Vima Nyingtik (in all TRBC collections)? Do you happen to know the title? Thanks.
No, it is not there, it is in the mtshams brag snying ma rgyud 'bum.
Found it. Volume 9, pg 437-446.

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Post by Sennin » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:43 pm

This tantra gives a very nice understanding of the basis. :thumbsup:
Namo Guru Bhyaḥ

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Post by jnanasutra » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:11 am

Sennin wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:43 pm
This tantra gives a very nice understanding of the basis. :thumbsup:
Are you talking about the Rigpa Rang Shar or the Özer Chenma (Marici) Tantra? So far, the Marici Tantra does look interesting. Slowly, slowly I progress. :reading:

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Post by Sennin » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:48 pm

jnanasutra wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:11 am
Sennin wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:43 pm
This tantra gives a very nice understanding of the basis. :thumbsup:
Are you talking about the Rigpa Rang Shar or the Özer Chenma (Marici) Tantra? So far, the Marici Tantra does look interesting. Slowly, slowly I progress. :reading:
Chapter thirty of the Rigpa Rang Shar. Longchenpa designates this as the explanatory tantra because it elucidates all three precious spheres.
Namo Guru Bhyaḥ

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Post by Dorje Shedrub » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:25 am

Is there any plan to publish this in electronic format?

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Post by Malcolm » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:55 am

Dorje Shedrub wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:25 am
Is there any plan to publish this in electronic format?

DS
Next year
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[A]nything at all that is well spoken is the word of the Buddha.

-- Ārya-adhyāśaya-sañcodana-nāma-mahāyāna-sūtra

The different sūtras in accord with the emptiness
taught by the Sugata are definitive in meaning;
One can understand that all of those Dharmas in
which a sentient being, individual, or person are taught are provisional in meaning.

-- Samadhirāja Sūtra

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Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:15 am

Lukeinaz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:08 pm
amanitamusc wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:10 am
Malcolm wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:05 pm


Wisdom has it.
Another very interesting and informative podcast.It would be nice if wisdom makes available
the other three hours.
I choked on my rice when you were explaining Bodhidharma facing reality for 9 yrs.
Many thanks!
Wisdom has unfortunately declined to release the entire interview.

Malcom apparently set a new record for longest audio presentation!

They also said to look forward to more content from Malcom in the future.

A Wisdom Academy presentation would be cool..
But,,, why? It was so interesting to hear! So sad
what are you doing

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Post by amanitamusc » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:38 am

javier.espinoza.t wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:15 am
Lukeinaz wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:08 pm
amanitamusc wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:10 am


Another very interesting and informative podcast.It would be nice if wisdom makes available
the other three hours.
I choked on my rice when you were explaining Bodhidharma facing reality for 9 yrs.
Many thanks!
Wisdom has unfortunately declined to release the entire interview.

Malcom apparently set a new record for longest audio presentation!



They also said to look forward to more content from Malcom in the future.

A Wisdom Academy presentation would be cool..
But,,, why? It was so interesting to hear! So sad
Why? My guess. Wisdoms protocol.

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Post by Sennin » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:44 am

Malcolm wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:06 pm
amanitamusc wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:42 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:40 pm


Yes, two more root texts WITH commentaries.
Do you get a potential time frame from wisdom as to when they will give the
go ahead? What are these other two?
Thanks.
Spring 2020.
Will the lung occur in 2020 as well, or perhaps earlier?
Namo Guru Bhyaḥ

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