Boundless Vision Tulku Tsolo

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Re: Boundless Vision Tulku Tsolo

Post by Spelare » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:32 pm

Pero wrote:Neither contain a sadhana btw.
So, you mean that the commentaries are just explanations, then? To help one understand what one is doing?

But this should be the sadhana, I think:

http://www.simplybeing.co.uk/the-five-n ... s-zer-nga/

The #1 above, edited by Boord, says this in the description:

The Five Nails (tib. gZer lNga) are the Northern Treasures (Byang gTer) accumulation practice (Ngöndro) which has to be practised before the Drubkor Nam Sum (tib. sGrub sKor rNam gSum), which consist of Drowa Kundrol (‘Gro Ba Kun Grol), the outer sadhana of Chenresig, who frees all beings (tib. Thugs rJe Chen Po ‘Gro Ba Kun Grol), the inner sadhana of Rigdzin Dungdrub (tib. Rig ‘Dzin gDung sGrub) and the secret sadhana of Thug Drub Dragpo Tsal (tib. Thugs sGrub Drag Po rTsal).

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Re: Boundless Vision Tulku Tsolo

Post by Spelare » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:24 pm

So, I've just received my copy of Boundless Vision. The Editor's note says: "Please note that Part One, Chapter 2 quotes the Five Nails ngondro text that has not been included herein in its entirety" (emphasis mine).

It looks like if I want to actually do the ngondro I should use the sadhana from James Low's website, perhaps augmented by one of the commentaries cited above. This edition of Boundless Vision does not reduplicate the full ngondro text.

If I have a hard time of it with Dowman's megapixels, I know where to look for more sober translation choices. Anyway, I can probably figure out what he's driving at, even if his style grates at times.

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Re: Boundless Vision Tulku Tsolo

Post by Spelare » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:18 pm

Sorry to triple post, but I wanted to share that, in spite of James Low having written the Foreword, he is not all that happy with the way this edition was handled (by Dowman, presumably).

I corresponded with James because I had hoped he could teach me from the text. He characterized the translation as "problematic" and said that it was "not published in the manner agreed," so he would not teach from it.

I think I'm going to sell my copy and wait for another translation, or else just use other texts. I kind of suspected, based on earlier forum posts, that Dowman's recent methods have rubbed people the wrong way, even the teachers whose endorsements he touts. Now I have direct confirmation.

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Re: Boundless Vision Tulku Tsolo

Post by Josef » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:22 pm

Spelare wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:24 pm
So, I've just received my copy of Boundless Vision. The Editor's note says: "Please note that Part One, Chapter 2 quotes the Five Nails ngondro text that has not been included herein in its entirety" (emphasis mine).

It looks like if I want to actually do the ngondro I should use the sadhana from James Low's website, perhaps augmented by one of the commentaries cited above. This edition of Boundless Vision does not reduplicate the full ngondro text.

If I have a hard time of it with Dowman's megapixels, I know where to look for more sober translation choices. Anyway, I can probably figure out what he's driving at, even if his style grates at times.
It's not limited to style really. His translations are wildly inaccurate and embellished with bizarre perspectives that he has invented, most likely in an effort to self-promote his "radical Dzogchen" notions and gain a following.
It is no surprise that James Low wasnt pleased with the publication after contributed to it.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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