Thoughts on Dzogchen without buddhism?

[dzogchungpa]

People. I think we have solved the "preliminaries" issue. It is off-topic anyway, so back to the topic please.

Apparently not.

Maybe if we tried 'Post-DI-minaries' ?

Now you're just being ri-DI-culous.

[PeterC]

I know this is only part of the way back to the original topic, but I wanted to share this: a bit of digging turns up strong evidence (I'd put it at 98% confidence) that "omega point" is a pen name for one Daniel Ingram.

Make of it what you will.

I had never heard of him, so thank you for identifying him, otherwise I might never have known that there are people around who publish things like this:

...Pokémon, having a vast range of personalities, spiritual, elemental, and Magickal qualities, basically represented a ready-made tantric palate for our time. ... as tantric entities, Pokémon should be related to skillfully, ethically, properly, respectfully, as one would with a tantric deity, dakini, bodhisattva, or Buddha.

[SonamTashi]

I know others have already said as much, but this Omega Point person certainly shouldn't be anyone's primary source on Dzogchen. Based on what has been posted here and on this reddit post, there are just a lot of red flags. A lot of Omega Point's stuff seems to just be written to confuse--it kind of makes me think they might just be a troll. That, or they almost sound a little crazy or unstable. They definitely don't seem trustworthy.

[Crazywisdom]

Here we go back on topic. Dzogchen without Buddhism, without an unbroken lineage of realization, transmission and practice is populated by demons and will break your heart, your mind and ruin your life.

[Norwegian]

Here we go back on topic. Dzogchen without Buddhism, without an unbroken lineage of realization, transmission and practice is populated by demons and will break your heart, your mind and ruin your life.

Correct. And like the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. People like this "Omega Point" and so many others like this, are leading people astray.

[amanitamusc]

Omega pointed head could be tied in with the 1971 hit movie starring chuck heston "The Omega Man"?

[Malcolm]

Here we go back on topic. Dzogchen without Buddhism, without an unbroken lineage of realization, transmission and practice is populated by demons and will break your heart, your mind and ruin your life.

Or it is a car without an engine.

[Drenpa]

Here we go back on topic. Dzogchen without Buddhism, without an unbroken lineage of realization, transmission and practice is populated by demons and will break your heart, your mind and ruin your life.

Or it is a car without an engine.

[dzogchungpa]

[Malcolm]

Here we go back on topic. Dzogchen without Buddhism, without an unbroken lineage of realization, transmission and practice is populated by demons and will break your heart, your mind and ruin your life.

Or it is a car without an engine.

The interesting thing about the flintstone's car is that there is nothing to prevent the rear roller from falling of the frame...kind of like Dzogchen without Buddhism...

[Virgo]

The interesting thing about the flintstone's car is that there is nothing to prevent the rear roller from falling of the frame...kind of like Dzogchen without Buddhism...

Good observation.

Kevin...

[Grigoris]

After three attempts to keep the discussion on topic, I have decided to take away the toys.