I thought that having stabilised the state you continue with it and gradually manage to remain for longer and in different circumstances you work with. I'm not sure if 'try' is the way to look at it.Aryjna wrote: ↑Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:47 pmI think the more you practice the easier it is to make progress in every way. You need to purify as much karma and accumulate as much merit as possible, which should help with integration and everything else. As far as I understand, just being beyond doubt does not mean you can suddenly start integrating during daily tasks just because you try to do that.Mantrik wrote: ↑Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:46 pmYes, I can't help thinking the 'no more doubt' of the 2nd of Garab Dorje's statements isn't best attained that way. Integration after stabilisation doesn't seem to me to be improved by being a monk or having a monastic routine.heart wrote: ↑Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:32 pmSadhanas don't block you from recognising the natural state, if that was so then "integration" in ordinary life would be impossible. But if you are a beginner then everything can be an obstacle and feel very difficult. Monastic normally goes in to extended retreat in order to attain the stability necessary for actually "integrate" in all different situations.
If experiences are limited to a monastic life, if a person disrobes, they may find it harder to integrate because of the previous limitations.
So once stabilised, you integrate immediately..........how could you do otherwise unless you decide to have set sessions and 'switch off' deliberately.
The 3rd Statement (ChNN's version) says this, and for sure it is a process:
''THE DISCIPLE CONTINUES IN THE STATE of non-dual contemplation, the primordial state, bringing contemplation into every action, until that which is every individual’s true condition from the beginning (the Dharmakaya), but which remains obscured by dualistic vision, is made real, or realized. One continues right up to Total Realization.''