Egg-shaped vase-like thing next to Garab Dorje in images
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Egg-shaped vase-like thing next to Garab Dorje in images
Out of curiosity, anyone know what the egg-shaped, vase-like things is to the right of Garab Dorje (and many other Dzogchen lineage masters) is?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/02/b5/dc02 ... 0d1c50.jpg
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It is a basket.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 pm Out of curiosity, anyone know what the egg-shaped, vase-like things is to the right of Garab Dorje (and many other Dzogchen lineage masters) is?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/02/b5/dc02 ... 0d1c50.jpg
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Does it symbolize holding the whole Dzogchen teachings, ie "Dzogchen pitaka"? If not, what does it symbolize? I only remember seeing it next to Dzogchen masters.Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:18 pmIt is a basket.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 pm Out of curiosity, anyone know what the egg-shaped, vase-like things is to the right of Garab Dorje (and many other Dzogchen lineage masters) is?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/02/b5/dc02 ... 0d1c50.jpg
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It's where you store your stuff.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:30 pmDoes it symbolize holding the whole Dzogchen teachings, ie "Dzogchen pitaka"? If not, what does it symbolize? I only remember seeing it next to Dzogchen masters.Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:18 pmIt is a basket.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 pm Out of curiosity, anyone know what the egg-shaped, vase-like things is to the right of Garab Dorje (and many other Dzogchen lineage masters) is?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/02/b5/dc02 ... 0d1c50.jpg
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lol ok, but what's the significance of depicting it in a lineage master's thangka? And seemingly only in those of master of Dzogchen, and always on the left, and so ornate for a mere storage bin?Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:34 pmIt's where you store your stuff.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:30 pmDoes it symbolize holding the whole Dzogchen teachings, ie "Dzogchen pitaka"? If not, what does it symbolize? I only remember seeing it next to Dzogchen masters.
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An egg-shaped egg basket?Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:18 pmIt is a basket.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 pm Out of curiosity, anyone know what the egg-shaped, vase-like things is to the right of Garab Dorje (and many other Dzogchen lineage masters) is?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/02/b5/dc02 ... 0d1c50.jpg
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I've heard (by Malcolm?) that the "stuff" inside the egg shaped basket is all the tantric stuff. Bell and dorje, bumpa, etc. Everything one might need for elaborate empowerments and introductions. If the utterly unelaborate empowerment doesn't work, then the Guru can bust out the tantric toys and offer a more seemingly complex empowerment.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:41 pmlol ok, but what's the significance of depicting it in a lineage master's thangka? And seemingly only in those of master of Dzogchen, and always on the left, and so ornate for a mere storage bin?Malcolm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:34 pmIt's where you store your stuff.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:30 pm
Does it symbolize holding the whole Dzogchen teachings, ie "Dzogchen pitaka"? If not, what does it symbolize? I only remember seeing it next to Dzogchen masters.
Think Chögyal Namkhai Norbu's first empowerment experience with his Guru Changchub Dorje Rinpoche.
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Rinpoche explained a few times that yogis carried a basket they called their "samatogs".Kunzang Tobgyal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:24 pmI've heard (by Malcolm?) that the "stuff" inside the egg shaped basket is all the tantric stuff. Bell and dorje, bumpa, etc. Everything one might need for elaborate empowerments and introductions. If the utterly unelaborate empowerment doesn't work, then the Guru can bust out the tantric toys and offer a more seemingly complex empowerment.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:41 pmlol ok, but what's the significance of depicting it in a lineage master's thangka? And seemingly only in those of master of Dzogchen, and always on the left, and so ornate for a mere storage bin?
Think Chögyal Namkhai Norbu's first empowerment experience with his Guru Changchub Dorje Rinpoche.
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Very Cool. Did he mention what kinda stuff they held inside?MiphamFan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:22 pmRinpoche explained a few times that yogis carried a basket they called their "samatogs".Kunzang Tobgyal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:24 pmI've heard (by Malcolm?) that the "stuff" inside the egg shaped basket is all the tantric stuff. Bell and dorje, bumpa, etc. Everything one might need for elaborate empowerments and introductions. If the utterly unelaborate empowerment doesn't work, then the Guru can bust out the tantric toys and offer a more seemingly complex empowerment.Pema Rigdzin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:41 pm
lol ok, but what's the significance of depicting it in a lineage master's thangka? And seemingly only in those of master of Dzogchen, and always on the left, and so ornate for a mere storage bin?
Think Chögyal Namkhai Norbu's first empowerment experience with his Guru Changchub Dorje Rinpoche.
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Initation cards when they wanted to give an empowerment, malas, vajra and bell. Everything a travelling siddha needs.
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it's an ancient and not ergonomic backpack haha
true dharma is inexpressible.
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i believe in sidepack (shoulder bag)
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We should rely on 3 Baskets and not put all our eggs in one.
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Good one.
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i wonder how weird was a sort of renunciant going around with a basket. it couldn't be a more curious guy haha
maybe they hid in a disguise of bizarre
maybe they hid in a disguise of bizarre
true dharma is inexpressible.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
The bodhisattva nourishes from bodhicitta, through whatever method the Buddha has given him. Oh joy.
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"All phenomena of samsara depend on the mind, so when the essence of mind is purified, samsara is purified. Since the phenomena of nirvana depend on the pristine consciousness of vidyā, because one remains in the immediacy of vidyā, buddhahood arises on its own. All critical points are summarized with those two." - Longchenpa