Dharmadhātu and gzhi

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mechashivaz
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Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by mechashivaz » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:34 am

What is the relationship between the two?

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Re: Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by Malcolm » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:52 am

mechashivaz wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:34 am
What is the relationship between the two?
In Dzogchen, they are the same thing.

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Re: Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by smcj » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:55 am

Shortest Dzogchen thread ever!! :twothumbsup:
1.The problem isn’t ‘ignorance’. The problem is the mind you have right now. (H.H. Karmapa XVII @NYC 2/4/18)
2. I support Mingyur R and HHDL in their positions against Lama abuse.
2. Student: Lama, I thought I might die but then I realized that the 3 Jewels would protect me.
Lama: Even If you had died the 3 Jewels would still have protected you. (DW post by Fortyeightvows)

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Re: Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by mechashivaz » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:01 pm

Malcolm wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:52 am
mechashivaz wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:34 am
What is the relationship between the two?
In Dzogchen, they are the same thing.
I thought so but couldn't find any confirmation. Thanks!

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Re: Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by Vaktar » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:01 pm

mechashivaz wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:01 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:52 am
mechashivaz wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:34 am
What is the relationship between the two?
In Dzogchen, they are the same thing.
I thought so but couldn't find any confirmation. Thanks!
Not so fast, fellers. Is gzhi-snang also Dharmadhatu, or not? I would say yes. Just like sex without a partner is not really sex, the ground-manifestation and ground go together.

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Re: Dharmadhātu and gzhi

Post by Malcolm » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:42 pm

Vaktar wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:01 pm
mechashivaz wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:01 pm
Malcolm wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:52 am


In Dzogchen, they are the same thing.
I thought so but couldn't find any confirmation. Thanks!
Not so fast, fellers. Is gzhi-snang also Dharmadhatu, or not?
The basis is the basis is the basis, whether it "rises up" or not. Anyway, here the basis is just the mind essence, one's unfabricated consciousness.

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