Mantra and Dzogchen

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Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by Sennin » Sat May 04, 2019 5:35 pm

I was reflecting on a recent thread on visualization, and it reminded me of a few citations that I remembered here, in regards to the importance of mantra and Dzogchen.

Mañjuśrīmitra writes:
  • Furthermore, since the teacher has declared that awakening can be correctly grasped with a symbol,
    in that case, this is the basis of the meditation that generates awakened mind.
    After the three samadhis are stable and after binding the three symbolic mudras,
    generate the mind as the great dharmamudra and meditate the recitation of the essence [mantra].
Mipham comments here:
  • If it is asked, “What is the method for realizing the definitive meaning through the indirect method?,” since nonactivity is illustrated with the activity of fabricated efforts, like pointing at the moon with a finger, also awakened mind correctly grasped through a symbol will accomplish awakening because the Bhagavan Buddha, the teacher of devas and humans, has declared that it is “great awakening.” Any unfortunate one who conceptualizes entities should make efforts in the indirect method of realization.

    In that case, this which is to be explained is the basis or cause of the meditation that generates ultimate awakened mind itself. If it is asked what that is, it is samadhi and mudra.

    Now then, through the power of cultivating the three samadhis of suchness, universal illumination and the cause, [14/a] one will be stable, and not carried away by negative conditions. After the meditation of binding the three symbolic mudras of buddhahood— the body (mahāmudra), the mind (samaya mudra), and the activities (karmamudra)—generate the mind as the great dharmamudra (the symbol of speech). One should then meditate the recitation of the essence mantra.

    If one meditates generating the thought that the samadhis and the mudras are dharmatā and therefore are not different, the ultimate awakened mind will arise. If one actualizes the meditation, one realizes that all phenomena do not exist apart from one’s mind. The accumulations are gathered and obscurations are purified because of that meditation. One becomes realized because one’s continuum is blessed by the deity of pristine consciousness.
"One should always recite mantra, purifying the body."
--Cakrasaṃvara Tantra

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Re: Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by heart » Sat May 04, 2019 7:28 pm

Yes, there you go.

/magnus
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~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by javier.espinoza.t » Sat May 04, 2019 10:43 pm

is there a teaching that discriminates vision from visualization in seed and essence saddhana context?

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Re: Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by haha » Sun May 05, 2019 6:39 am

Thank you for the link (i.e. Malcolm's post).


Two important points:
Now this will be spoken in the symbolic language. The perception through senses is the perception imagined by the mind.
(Thus) the knowledge obtained in the utpatti-krama (the process of creation) does not lead to the Enlightenment.

Shendge, Malati J., Sat Sahasrika Hevajratika of Vajragharba
According to Gunaratana, the following meditation subjects only lead to "access concentration" (upacara samadhi), due to their complexity: the recollection of the Buddha, dharma, sangha, morality, liberality, wholesome attributes of Devas (Devatanusmriti), death, and peace; the perception of disgust of food; and the analysis of the four elements.
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Re: Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by heart » Mon May 06, 2019 8:08 pm

If you understand how to practice ChNNR's Guru Yoga with a white Ah, then you understand the essence of kyerim and dzogrim. Of course there are endless details but that is the essence.

/magnus
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~Kurt Vonnegut

"The principal practice is Guruyoga. But we need to understand that any secondary practice combined with Guruyoga becomes a principal practice." ChNNR (Teachings on Thun and Ganapuja)

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Re: Mantra and Dzogchen

Post by treehuggingoctopus » Tue May 07, 2019 7:13 am

heart wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 8:08 pm
If you understand how to practice ChNNR's Guru Yoga with a white Ah, then you understand the essence of kyerim and dzogrim. Of course there are endless details but that is the essence.

/magnus
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