Inexpressibility and Precious Word Empowerment

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Karma Dondrup Tashi
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Inexpressibility and Precious Word Empowerment

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm

In terms of its meaning, as it cannot be pointed out by words, it is inexpressible; as it cannot be known with ordinary modes of consciousness, it is inconceivable; and as it is does not fall into any extreme, it is the great freedom from elaboration. In the end, it is beyond all expressions, such as: it is all and everything, it is not all, everything lies within it, or does not, and so on.

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If this is the case how can a precious Word empowerment be effective?

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Re: Inexpressibility and Precious Word Empowerment

Post by florin » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:28 pm

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm
In terms of its meaning, as it cannot be pointed out by words, it is inexpressible; as it cannot be known with ordinary modes of consciousness, it is inconceivable; and as it is does not fall into any extreme, it is the great freedom from elaboration. In the end, it is beyond all expressions, such as: it is all and everything, it is not all, everything lies within it, or does not, and so on.

https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-ma ... ce-of-mind

If this is the case how can a precious Word empowerment be effective?

https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?tit ... mpowerment
Oral transmission needs to be done in conjunction with the symbolic transmission and a method to be complete.
Just words and concepts are not enough to elicit direct experience.

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Re: Inexpressibility and Precious Word Empowerment

Post by SkyDragon3 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:20 am

When one has the direct experience of realization, all those quotes about inexpressibile, inconceivable make sense, absolutely.

The difficulty arises when one uses the ordinary mind, with ordinary logic to attempt to make sense of the statements.

A closer read of your quote actually reveals this.

These kind of statements arise from the enlightened mind, which allows such vajra statements, poems, songs, to arise.

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Re: Inexpressibility and Precious Word Empowerment

Post by heart » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:59 am

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:00 pm
In terms of its meaning, as it cannot be pointed out by words, it is inexpressible; as it cannot be known with ordinary modes of consciousness, it is inconceivable; and as it is does not fall into any extreme, it is the great freedom from elaboration. In the end, it is beyond all expressions, such as: it is all and everything, it is not all, everything lies within it, or does not, and so on.

https://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-ma ... ce-of-mind

If this is the case how can a precious Word empowerment be effective?

https://www.rigpawiki.org/index.php?tit ... mpowerment
It is in the text: "What we call “essence of mind” is the actual face of unconditioned pure awareness, which is recognized through receiving the guru's blessings and instructions." This text by Mipham is a good example of the instructions. I have received direct introduction many times with a text such a this. The guru teach the text and thanks to our confidence in him we recognise the natural state.

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