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Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:17 pm
by heart
This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal! Anyone know who their teacher is?

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/magnus

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:26 am
by Pema Rigdzin
Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:27 am
by heart
Pema Rigdzin wrote:Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:smile:

/magnus

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:33 pm
by Mr. G
Pema Rigdzin wrote:Not sure what to make of this couple...

On a sidenote, apparently Batman is a togal practitioner too: http://thelostyak.com/2010/02/25/the-co ... oes-togal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I like this! :smile:
This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal!
http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:14 pm
by Heruka
heart wrote:This American couple say they reached completion of the path of Tögal! Anyone know who their teacher is?

http://www.acircleisdrawn.org/index.php/about/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

/magnus
I thought the art on the website was quite nice.

as a side note, being captivated by the visions is a glitch no?
I think an answer to inner self question, is in that observation alone.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:20 pm
by Heruka
Pema Rigdzin wrote:Not sure what to make of this couple...
exactly, they appear to be practicing , but at what achievement hard to know, so better to gently place flower at their feet and be respectful.

:namaste:

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:03 pm
by Mr. G
Not so wise to be selling books based on their visions.

And who is their Guru?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:08 pm
by Karma Dondrup Tashi
Absolutely inane to discuss something like that in public if you are not a teacher.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:34 pm
by tamdrin
while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:39 pm
by Heruka
tamdrin wrote:while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

what have they claimed?

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Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:43 pm
by Mr. G
Heruka wrote:
tamdrin wrote:while togal is nothing without trekchod, so the fact that they didn't mention that gives suspicion to their claims.

what have they claimed?
They share the unique perspective that their completion of the path of Tögal brings to encourage recognition that this Earth, this vision we call life, is a sacred offering.


And...they have books for sales on the visions they had in meditation! :?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:01 pm
by tamdrin
this will be more useful than their stuff


http://www.rinpoche.com/karmechagme/kar ... aching.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:09 pm
by Heruka
All of those things, painting, poetry, artistic expression and even dharma talk are manifestations of the ground, path and fruit. it either stands up or it falls down, in reality it means not that much.

Wheres the problem?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:12 pm
by Heruka
tamdrin wrote:this will be more useful than their stuff


http://www.rinpoche.com/karmechagme/kar ... aching.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

to satisfy the intellect, of course.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:50 pm
by Heruka
mr. gordo wrote: And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:59 pm
by Mr. G
Heruka wrote:
mr. gordo wrote: And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?
I don't know. I'm at work and don't have my books with me. Tell me, who?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:01 pm
by Mr. G
Heruka wrote:All of those things, painting, poetry, artistic expression and even dharma talk are manifestations of the ground, path and fruit. it either stands up or it falls down, in reality it means not that much.

Wheres the problem?
The problem is they are openly talking about the visions they had while in meditation, and worse they are selling it for a profit.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:20 pm
by Heruka
mr. gordo wrote:
Heruka wrote:
mr. gordo wrote: And who is their Guru?

just for fun mr G, what was the name of Gotama Siddhartas guru?
I don't know. I'm at work and don't have my books with me. Tell me, who?

well, first we have a gentleman named alara kalama who took siddharta as a student and taught the dhamma of samkhya, which gotama ultimately found unsatisfactory. we can also say that gotama probably learned yogic practices of patanjali, which were wide spread in the ganges at that time.

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:21 pm
by Mr. G
Heruka wrote: well, first we have a gentleman named alara kalama who taught the dhamma of samkhya, which gotama ultimately found unsatisfactory. we can also say that gotama probably learned yogic practices of patanjali, which were wide spread in the ganges at that time.
Heruka, I was aware of his non-dharma related teachers, and I'm sure they helped him on his path. What exactly is your point here?

Re: Completion of the path of Tögal

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:23 pm
by Heruka
the point is exposure to such, never effected his enlightenment, but really sped it on.

:anjali: