Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by lelopa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:23 am

climb-up wrote:((The SMS Base practices and requirements are available publicly, so I believe this is an acceptable place to ask))

I am under the impression that, for the SMS Base practices, the practice of the three roots can be done either by quantity or by quality.
Is that true?
If so:
1) Is one or the other method preferable?
2)Would it be acceptable to perform, for example, the guru by quality and deva and dakini by quantity?

I really appreciate any answers here. Thank you
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by TaTa » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:38 pm

Should sms be practiced in the order its explained? For exMple if i only have a couple of months for retreat i might prefsr to use them in semdzin and rushan than four unmeaurables

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by treehuggingoctopus » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:39 pm

Guys, switch to PMs. SMS practices are not to be talked about on open message boards.
climb-up wrote:The SMS Base practices and requirements are available publicly, so I believe this is an acceptable place to ask
The SMS practices should not be available publicly.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by climb-up » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:49 pm

treehuggingoctopus wrote:Guys, switch to PMs. SMS practices are not to be talked about on open message boards.
climb-up wrote:The SMS Base practices and requirements are available publicly, so I believe this is an acceptable place to ask
The SMS practices should not be available publicly.
Okay.
I only question this because the .pdf is available on the http://dzogchencommunity.org website.
It comes up first on a google search and I double checked and if you just go onto the website and use it's search function, the .pdf will come up as well, so it's not trying to be hidden. ( http://dzogchencommunity.org/santi-maha-sangha/ )

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Norwegian » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:56 pm

climb-up wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:Guys, switch to PMs. SMS practices are not to be talked about on open message boards.
climb-up wrote:The SMS Base practices and requirements are available publicly, so I believe this is an acceptable place to ask
The SMS practices should not be available publicly.
Okay.
I only question this because the .pdf is available on the http://dzogchencommunity.org website.
It comes up first on a google search and I double checked and if you just go onto the website and use it's search function, the .pdf will come up as well, so it's not trying to be hidden. ( http://dzogchencommunity.org/santi-maha-sangha/ )
It's still not something you discuss in public.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Miroku » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:12 pm

Hi, just a minor question. If I wanted to do a simple ganapuja is it okay to just use piece of bread and water in case I don't have alcohol or meat?
Child, if you are not hypocritical and out of control, that is conduct.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Josef » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:26 pm

Miroku wrote:Hi, just a minor question. If I wanted to do a simple ganapuja is it okay to just use piece of bread and water in case I don't have alcohol or meat?
Yes.
"work with circumstances"
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by climb-up » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:07 pm

Norwegian wrote:
climb-up wrote:
treehuggingoctopus wrote:Guys, switch to PMs. SMS practices are not to be talked about on open message boards.



The SMS practices should not be available publicly.
Okay.
I only question this because the .pdf is available on the http://dzogchencommunity.org website.
It comes up first on a google search and I double checked and if you just go onto the website and use it's search function, the .pdf will come up as well, so it's not trying to be hidden. ( http://dzogchencommunity.org/santi-maha-sangha/ )
It's still not something you discuss in public.
Okay, I'll stop then. Please flag my posts for the moderators if they've crossed the line.
What is the limit in this regard?
Various practices are frequently mentioned here, is it just that specific practices and procedures of SMS specifically shouldn't be discussed?

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Mantrik » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:45 pm

The key here is to follow the guidance of the Guru and his senior students.
The internet is full of practices which require some sort of transmission before they should be performed.
We can't know which ones require transmission without guidance, so best not to spread the publication of them.
If we start with transmission or advice and then use the links our Guru provides we are fine.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by treehuggingoctopus » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:55 am

climb-up wrote:Please flag my posts for the moderators if they've crossed the line.
What is the limit in this regard?
Various practices are frequently mentioned here, is it just that specific practices and procedures of SMS specifically shouldn't be discussed?
Rinpoche is averse to his students discussing Dzogchen online in general. He has also repeatedly said that we should not talk about the details of any Vajrayana practice in public. But what he indeed stresses most is that we must not bring SMS practices/instructions into the open.

I do not think that posting a link to the .pdf with a list of Base level practices is any transgression. Talking about any specific instructions would be, in my book at least.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by liuzg150181 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:08 pm

Josef wrote:
Miroku wrote:Hi, just a minor question. If I wanted to do a simple ganapuja is it okay to just use piece of bread and water in case I don't have alcohol or meat?
Yes.
"work with circumstances"
And how do we deal with the remainder offering?

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Josef » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:16 pm

liuzg150181 wrote:
Josef wrote:
Miroku wrote:Hi, just a minor question. If I wanted to do a simple ganapuja is it okay to just use piece of bread and water in case I don't have alcohol or meat?
Yes.
"work with circumstances"
And how do we deal with the remainder offering?
However you can/need to.
You can set it out in a clear open space and remove it later or visualize it.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Miroku » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:58 am

Hello, could anyone please pm me a details of vajrapani practice? Like mantra and seed syllable?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Josef » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:55 pm

Miroku wrote:Hello, could anyone please pm me a details of vajrapani practice? Like mantra and seed syllable?
There is a booklet available that you can order.
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Update on Chögyal Namkhai Norbu’s Program

Post by Malcolm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:04 pm

Dear All,

Our dear Maestro Chögyal Namkhai Norbu is continuing his convalescence and his health is steadily improving.

He has decided not to undertake the journey planned for Asia and to remain at Merigar. This is for various reasons and various obstacles that are manifesting in connection with this journey.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by treehuggingoctopus » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:13 pm

Fcuk, what a year it has been...

I only hope it has got nothing to do with the US-North Korea tensions.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Aryjna » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:29 pm

Is there any chance that retreats will take place in Merigar instead?

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by treehuggingoctopus » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:45 pm

You can write and ask them. But I suspect it is unlikely. Organising a retreat is a massive undertaking, you generally need to prepare well in advance.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by TaTa » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:38 pm

I was really hoping to see him this year in argentina :crying:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by liuzg150181 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:19 pm

TaTa wrote:I was really hoping to see him this year in argentina :crying:
I was hoping to meet him this year in Malaysia and Hong Kong. :crying:
Guess for now,I shall meet Vajrayana teachers passing by my country. :shrug:

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