Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by dharmafootsteps » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:12 am

Does anyone have an email address for Steve Landsberg or Elio Guarisco that they could PM me? There's one for Elio in the pdf list of SMS Instructors floating around, it seems to be an old disused one though as my email bounced back from it.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Joseph » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:42 am

I'm thinking instead of continuing to purchase physical copies , I could slowly migrate to ebooks .

What are people using to read the PDF ebooks sold through ShangShung store ? Iv'e never owned a kindle , although I have heard they may not be the best to read PDF's through ?

Anyone have any experience before I potentially purchase a kindle ?

:)

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Re: Shine and Contemplation

Post by Aryjna » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:32 am

Ignorant_Fool wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:05 am
Do these books require specific transmissions (apart from Guruyoga)?

Aryjna wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:57 am
http://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/en ... 05614.html
This book explains how to get to the union of shamatha and vipashyana through shine.
heart wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:24 pm
http://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/en ... &results=9

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schubertian wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:53 pm
There is also this excellent book outlining a method for gradually cultivating Shine, Gyuwa, Stable Shine, 'Released' Shine, Contemplation, and Trekcho.

http://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/en ... 05614.html
They don't require any other transmission.

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Re: Shine and Contemplation

Post by Ignorant_Fool » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:40 am

Aryjna wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:32 am
They don't require any other transmission.
Much obliged. :anjali:

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Lukeinaz » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:01 am

Joseph wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:42 am
I'm thinking instead of continuing to purchase physical copies , I could slowly migrate to ebooks .

What are people using to read the PDF ebooks sold through ShangShung store ? Iv'e never owned a kindle , although I have heard they may not be the best to read PDF's through ?

Anyone have any experience before I potentially purchase a kindle ?

:)
I really like the e-book feature and do a lot of reading this way. I installed a pdf reader on my kindle fire and it works great. I had to do a bit of looking around for a program that would open an encrypted document.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by PSM » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:58 pm

schubertian wrote:
Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:53 pm
There is also this excellent book outlining a method for gradually cultivating Shine, Gyuwa, Stable Shine, 'Released' Shine, Contemplation, and Trekcho.

http://shop.shangshungfoundation.com/en ... 05614.html
With regards to the book An Introduction to the Practice of Contemplation, there's a phrase in there which confuses me. It's the one in relation to released shine, something close to 'you are the leaper'. I simply can't parse the instructions.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Johnny Dangerous » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:45 pm

Joseph wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:42 am
I'm thinking instead of continuing to purchase physical copies , I could slowly migrate to ebooks .

What are people using to read the PDF ebooks sold through ShangShung store ? Iv'e never owned a kindle , although I have heard they may not be the best to read PDF's through ?

Anyone have any experience before I potentially purchase a kindle ?

:)
I use a tablet - or a phone in a pinch. A knidle fire views them fine if I recall, not sure about the oldschool kindle.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by meepits » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:58 pm

Johnny Dangerous wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:45 pm
Joseph wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:42 am
I'm thinking instead of continuing to purchase physical copies , I could slowly migrate to ebooks .

What are people using to read the PDF ebooks sold through ShangShung store ? Iv'e never owned a kindle , although I have heard they may not be the best to read PDF's through ?

Anyone have any experience before I potentially purchase a kindle ?

:)
I use a tablet - or a phone in a pinch. A knidle fire views them fine if I recall, not sure about the oldschool kindle.
I just read them from the generic iBooks app that comes with iPhones. To me it’s totally fine. If I’m away from home and have a question, it’s nice to be able to just pick up my phone and search the books

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by mechashivaz » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:38 pm

Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:45 pm
Snowbear wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:50 pm
smcj wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:33 pm

The 6 yogas are taught in the last 6 months of the 3 year retreat. 1 month per yoga.
How did you find out what happens inside a 3 year retreat?
Its not really a secret.
All lineages have a retreat curriculum.

Does the DC have anything like this? Or has Rinpoche "sanctioned" or gave his blessings to anyone in DC to do lengthy retreats?

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Josef » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:38 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:45 pm
Snowbear wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:50 pm


How did you find out what happens inside a 3 year retreat?
Its not really a secret.
All lineages have a retreat curriculum.

Does the DC have anything like this? Or has Rinpoche "sanctioned" or gave his blessings to anyone in DC to do lengthy retreats?
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by mechashivaz » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:01 pm

Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm
mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:38 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:45 pm


Its not really a secret.
All lineages have a retreat curriculum.

Does the DC have anything like this? Or has Rinpoche "sanctioned" or gave his blessings to anyone in DC to do lengthy retreats?
Its in The Precious Vase
Thanks for that clarification. My understanding is the practices of TPV (most of them) don't require one to be on retreat. It seems more aimed at making one's whole life the retreat (with obvious caveats) which is a supreme method indeed. Just curious if there was a 333 retreat or something similar.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by florin » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:05 pm

Joseph wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:42 am
I'm thinking instead of continuing to purchase physical copies , I could slowly migrate to ebooks .

What are people using to read the PDF ebooks sold through ShangShung store ? Iv'e never owned a kindle , although I have heard they may not be the best to read PDF's through ?

Anyone have any experience before I potentially purchase a kindle ?

:)
On my kindle paperwhite, second edition i think, the text on the the pdf's from SSI, is a bit small and there isn't an option to increase the text size unfortunately.
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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Josef » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:49 am

mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:01 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm
mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:38 pm



Does the DC have anything like this? Or has Rinpoche "sanctioned" or gave his blessings to anyone in DC to do lengthy retreats?
Its in The Precious Vase
Thanks for that clarification. My understanding is the practices of TPV (most of them) don't require one to be on retreat. It seems more aimed at making one's whole life the retreat (with obvious caveats) which is a supreme method indeed. Just curious if there was a 333 retreat or something similar.
TPV is the DC equivalent to retreat style accumulation.
Individual circumstances can be adapted to fit that structure.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Vasana » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:28 am

Josef wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:49 am
mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:01 pm
Josef wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 pm

Its in The Precious Vase
Thanks for that clarification. My understanding is the practices of TPV (most of them) don't require one to be on retreat. It seems more aimed at making one's whole life the retreat (with obvious caveats) which is a supreme method indeed. Just curious if there was a 333 retreat or something similar.
TPV is the DC equivalent to retreat style accumulation.
Individual circumstances can be adapted to fit that structure.

Working with our circumstances comes first but retreat is still ideal for certain practices to get maximum benefit and progression. At the very least, dedicating a day or a weekend or a week to practice can yield more significant and swifter effects than sessions spread out and diluted. Diluted can sometimes work out in the long run but in the beggining it's good to allocate some proper time for practice.
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Post by Penor » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:27 pm

I was just at Dzamling gar. For any one who doesnt know already, Rinpoche got out of hospital a few days ago. I saw him when he returned, he looked weak. He is resting at home. I read that to improve Rinpoches health he has requested for his students do guru yoga, remain present and work with circumstance.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by TaTa » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:30 pm

Is there a practice recomended to reduce strong attachment? (besides guru yoga)

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Ignorant_Fool » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:39 pm

Penor wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:27 pm
I was just at Dzamling gar. For any one who doesnt know already, Rinpoche got out of hospital a few days ago. I saw him when he returned, he looked weak. He is resting at home. I read that to improve Rinpoches health he has requested for his students do guru yoga, remain present and work with circumstance.
Thank you for the update. :anjali:

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Post by PSM » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:26 pm

TaTa wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:30 pm
Is there a practice recomended to reduce strong attachment? (besides guru yoga)
The four thoughts (precious human life, impermanence, suffering, karma) would be a good bet, especially the second one.

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Post by Josef » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:49 pm

Vasana wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:28 am
Josef wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:49 am
mechashivaz wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:01 pm


Thanks for that clarification. My understanding is the practices of TPV (most of them) don't require one to be on retreat. It seems more aimed at making one's whole life the retreat (with obvious caveats) which is a supreme method indeed. Just curious if there was a 333 retreat or something similar.
TPV is the DC equivalent to retreat style accumulation.
Individual circumstances can be adapted to fit that structure.

Working with our circumstances comes first but retreat is still ideal for certain practices to get maximum benefit and progression. At the very least, dedicating a day or a weekend or a week to practice can yield more significant and swifter effects than sessions spread out and diluted. Diluted can sometimes work out in the long run but in the beggining it's good to allocate some proper time for practice.
I never made any comments to the contrary. Nor does Rinpoche in The Precious Vase.
Kye ma!
The river of continuity is marked by impermanence.
Ceaseless flowing of appearance.
Beautiful and repulsive.
The dance of life and death is a display of the vast expanse.
With gratitude the watcher and the watched pass through the barrier of duality.

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Re: Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

Post by Vasana » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:56 pm

PSM wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:26 pm
TaTa wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:30 pm
Is there a practice recomended to reduce strong attachment? (besides guru yoga)
The four thoughts (precious human life, impermanence, suffering, karma) would be a good bet, especially the second one.
Yep. Generally, lojong helps here. Studying and reflecting more deeply and intensively on the 4 thoughts will help you reassess your priorities and loosen the grip on attachments.

Also read/listen to teachings on 'Parting from the four Attachments'.
There is a Shang Shung book on this and you can find teachings on YouTube. I particularly like the teaching from Khenpo Tsultrim Lodro on this topic.

'“If you are attached to this life, you are not a true spiritual practitioner;
If you are attached to saṃsāra, you have no renunciation;
If you are attached to your own self-interest, you have no bodhicitta;
If there is grasping, you do not have the View.”


http://www.lotsawahouse.org/tibetan-mas ... ttachments

It can also help to contemplate the fact that illness and death are unavoidable. How ready are we, really? Imagining your own death can help put things in to perspective. Then there's the painful bardo of dying to look forward to and so on.

It can also help to apply stricter discipline from time to time and set a limit to the consumption and exposure of whatever it is that sparks attachment. Ideally we wouldn't need to do this if our contemplation and capacity was stable but for many of us, this is not always the case.
'When alone, watch your mind. When with others, watch your speech'- Old Kadampa saying.

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