Tata1 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:47 pm
Johnny Dangerous wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:15 pm
Russell wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:02 pm
To equate not having a public forum with secrecy doesn't make sense, we are open and transparent
within its members, not to the public.
I think JD is not realising a lot of the problems he is experiencing and criticisms he has are coming from being active on a disconnected public forum and not active within the DC itself..
Dude, you can't really be "active" within the larger DC unless you live in near a gar or ling, or have in person experience with the community, that is kind of my point about the future. The only other thing is to follow the disorganized slew of info from Norbunet etc., the now somewhat random offering of things on the webcast site, ordering from SSI, etc. It was different when there were webcasts with Rinpoche, those drew disparate people together. If they are gone, the DC needs to plan accordingly and stop acting like everything will be ok.
The problem is not simply my own, it is the very problem that cause the membership to continually decline without transmission as the centerpiece. There is no avenue for distance participation in the DC the way there is in other organizations, other than what I already do - ordering material from SSI, following all the lists, etc. I have the app too. That's kind of nice.
Not really. There is an app with basically all the events going on around the world which you can follow if they are being transmitted. There are several facebook groups of different gars with news, an official news site, magazine, Ssi and its branches with all the different activieties. I mean what do you expect?
I have stepped on my local gar maybe three times in my life and i have never felt distanced from the community. One has to be active, not passive. One cannot expect to be spoonfed by the community
When I entered Dzamling Gar for retreat in late 2016, I felt like I was coming home. I had never been there before, but it felt like home - not the day after I arrived there - but the very first second I entered the grounds. I saw familiar faces, of fellow practitioners young and old, of friends, SMS instructors, Yantra Yoga instructors, Khaita dance instructors, Vajra Dance instructors, and so on. I met lots of people I had never met before or seen before. It was very easy to talk to people. People were relaxed, joyous, happy.
One of the reasons why I saw so many familiar faces, is because I recognized a number of them from having seen them in the crowd during webcast events, and from having seen them in The Mirror, or in other videos, or from Facebook in the many Dzogchen Community / SSI related groups that exists.
I lived in north Norway, not exactly a hotbed of intense Dharma activities (there's nothing where I lived.) Where I live now, I'd argue there's also nothing. Sure, a handful of Buddhists here, but nothing that even remotely interests me. So I have to be connected online.
I also have nothing to compare with, since what I have around me offline is, well, nothing (aside from when I've actually gone on retreats.) So then regarding the Dzogchen Community, I'm part of a number of Gar mailing lists, as well as Norbunet mailing list. And I'm on Facebook, where I also follow a number of groups and people. And I read The Mirror. And watch various videos on YouTube.
I'm not really sure if what the Dzogchen Community is doing right now is way too little in terms of activities, or just enough, or quite a lot, since I have no frame of reference. This is also why I asked Johnny Dangerous if he could give examples of other communities that does this better, according to him.
Personally I feel like there's something happening quite often these days. There's been online practice sessions of various kinds. There's been talks. There's been teachings. There's been intensive practice sessions. As one example, SSI's School of Tibetan Medicine has had many nice live-streamed talks recently, with featured guest of Dr. Phuntsog Wangmo, and with guests like Mingyur Rinpoche, Tulku Dakpa Rinpoche, Garchen Rinpoche, Dzigar Kongtrul Rinpoche, etc.
Something like this I think is very nice.