Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

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climb-up wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:39 pm Is there's a key to all of the masters in the thanka?
the names of the masters are written on the thangka.
so we need only a higher resolution for making a key....
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lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:58 am
climb-up wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:39 pm Is there's a key to all of the masters in the thanka?
the names of the masters are written on the thangka.
so we need only a higher resolution for making a key....
The names are in Tibetan, yellow or gold colour, but not clear enough to read. I doubt a higher resolution image is available.
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lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:58 am
climb-up wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:39 pm Is there's a key to all of the masters in the thanka?
the names of the masters are written on the thangka.
so we need only a higher resolution for making a key....
You are right that the names are written on the thangka. However, the problem is that the image above is of the copy print of the original thangka. And looking at mine close up, it's clear that the names are unintelligible. Thus even a higher resolution image of the copy print won't help. The better alternative would be a close up photo of the original thangka, or contacting Samtengar and asking them for information.
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Norwegian wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:43 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:58 am
climb-up wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:39 pm Is there's a key to all of the masters in the thanka?
the names of the masters are written on the thangka.
so we need only a higher resolution for making a key....
You are right that the names are written on the thangka. However, the problem is that the image above is of the copy print of the original thangka. And looking at mine close up, it's clear that the names are unintelligible. Thus even a higher resolution image of the copy print won't help. The better alternative would be a close up photo of the original thangka, or contacting Samtengar and asking them for information.
yes, i mean a better pic..... a better resolution, or a better photo, or what else
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lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:04 pm
Norwegian wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:43 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:58 am

the names of the masters are written on the thangka.
so we need only a higher resolution for making a key....
You are right that the names are written on the thangka. However, the problem is that the image above is of the copy print of the original thangka. And looking at mine close up, it's clear that the names are unintelligible. Thus even a higher resolution image of the copy print won't help. The better alternative would be a close up photo of the original thangka, or contacting Samtengar and asking them for information.
yes, i mean a better pic..... a better resolution, or a better photo, or what else
Ok, A higher resolution of already blurred words will not help.
Contacting Samtengar and asking them for information. This seems the next step as N said.
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amanitamusc wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:07 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:04 pm
Norwegian wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:43 pm
You are right that the names are written on the thangka. However, the problem is that the image above is of the copy print of the original thangka. And looking at mine close up, it's clear that the names are unintelligible. Thus even a higher resolution image of the copy print won't help. The better alternative would be a close up photo of the original thangka, or contacting Samtengar and asking them for information.
yes, i mean a better pic..... a better resolution, or a better photo, or what else
Ok, A higher resolution of already blurred words will not help.
Contacting Samtengar and asking them for information. This seems the next step as N said.
FYI I have contacted Samtengar. If I get a reply / when I get, I'll post here. Hopefully they know, or can direct me to someone that does.
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I cannot find Padmasambhava :shrug:
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lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:45 pm I cannot find Padmasambhava :shrug:
ChNNR is Padmasambhava in the thangka as I understand it.
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Aryjna wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:50 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:45 pm I cannot find Padmasambhava :shrug:
ChNNR is Padmasambhava in the thangka as I understand it.
Wouldn't Guru Dragphur technically count as Padmasambhava? Just saying...
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Tenma wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Aryjna wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:50 pm
lelopa wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:45 pm I cannot find Padmasambhava :shrug:
ChNNR is Padmasambhava in the thangka as I understand it.
Wouldn't Guru Dragphur technically count as Padmasambhava? Just saying...
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lelopa wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:44 am
Tenma wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm
Aryjna wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:50 pm

ChNNR is Padmasambhava in the thangka as I understand it.
Wouldn't Guru Dragphur technically count as Padmasambhava? Just saying...
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How? Isn't he the wrathful emanation of Padmasambhava? I also heard the same is for Simhamukha.
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Tenma wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:48 am
lelopa wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:44 am
Tenma wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:36 pm

Wouldn't Guru Dragphur technically count as Padmasambhava? Just saying...
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How? Isn't he the wrathful emanation of Padmasambhava? I also heard the same is for Simhamukha.
with this logic every male is Samanthabadra, every female is Samanthabadri - so it would be sufficient to paint only these both.
But for a reason there are a little more figures on this thangka.... for example Padmasambhava as Yidam,
but NOT as Guru/teacher (at least not how he is regulary depicted).
In lineages you'll find more gurus than Yidams.
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Perhaps there was confusion with Dorje Drollo, who is an emanation of guru rinpoche?
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climb-up wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:39 pm Perhaps there was confusion with Dorje Drollo, who is an emanation of guru rinpoche?
they both are.
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Josef wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 am
climb-up wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:39 pm Perhaps there was confusion with Dorje Drollo, who is an emanation of guru rinpoche?
they both are.
Oops, you're right; I stand corrected.
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climb-up wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:31 am
Josef wrote: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 am
climb-up wrote: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:39 pm Perhaps there was confusion with Dorje Drollo, who is an emanation of guru rinpoche?
they both are.
Oops, you're right; I stand corrected.
They are forms of Padmasambhava 'perfected of all 3 roots' , as is the LZ Takhyung.
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Does anyone know where the mandala offering that is used in the DC is from?
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At the moment, the DC is supposed to be silently contemplating rather than launching into this kind of thing. Once the DC has a strong direction the membership will follow and so will the income stream for publications, costing and pricing strategies etc. They clearly need help, but this is a 'cart before the horse' situation.
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Mantrik wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:59 am

At the moment, the DC is supposed to be silently contemplating rather than launching into this kind of thing. Once the DC has a strong direction the membership will follow and so will the income stream for publications, costing and pricing strategies etc. They clearly need help, but this is a 'cart before the horse' situation.
SSI thought it appropriate.So they obviously need sales now.You have been posting on
other threads often enough so ride behind the cart and keep being the silence cop. :juggling:
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