Dzogchen Community of Chogyal Namkhai Norbu

[Pero]

It is a very interesting book. Also, I recently read "The Life and Times of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö" where one gets to hear "the other side" of the story of how come Khyentse Chökyi Wangchug left Dzongsar and Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö moved in at Dzongsar.

/magnus

Wish you hadn't mentioned that. I took a look and now just feel more disgusted with tulku businesses.

It is really just Tibetan business in the end,

/magnus

I suppose you're right.

[Pero]

Here, you mean:
https://www.amazon.com/Times-Jamyang-Kh ... 1611803772
?

Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

[treehuggingoctopus]

Wish you hadn't mentioned that. I took a look and now just feel more disgusted with tulku businesses.

It is really just Tibetan business in the end,

/magnus

I suppose you're right.

But then ChNN does want us to read his book, does he not?

[Malcolm]

Here, you mean:
https://www.amazon.com/Times-Jamyang-Kh ... 1611803772
?

Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

Yup.

[Pero]

It is really just Tibetan business in the end,

/magnus

I suppose you're right.

But then ChNN does want us to read his book, does he not?

Sure.

[DannyDevitoFan]

Does any one have any info about the upcoming Ati Yoga retreat at Dzamling Gar this December? The website does seem to have any other information about the retreat outside of the date.

[dharmafootsteps]

Is it appropriate to have images of the guardians and Guru Tragphur, Simhamukha on the shrine in my room, to assist with visualisation in thun practice?

[krodha]

Is it appropriate to have images of the guardians and Guru Tragphur, Simhamukha on the shrine in my room, to assist with visualisation in thun practice?

Yes.

[MiphamFan]

If defending Lakar wasn't enough reason not to receive teachings from Tobgyal then this is.

I trust ChNN over some second-hand rumours Tobgyal heard.

[Aryjna]

Does any one have any info about the upcoming Ati Yoga retreat at Dzamling Gar this December? The website does seem to have any other information about the retreat outside of the date.

I also want to know, mostly about the drubchen. According to the calendar, it will be combined with the losar celebration, but two weeks seems very long. Is there some information from previous years about what to expect more or less? I am not sure it will be possible to attend the whole two-week event.

[dharmafootsteps]

Is it appropriate to have images of the guardians and Guru Tragphur, Simhamukha on the shrine in my room, to assist with visualisation in thun practice?

Yes.

Great, thank you.

[Rinchen Dorje]

Here, you mean:
https://www.amazon.com/Times-Jamyang-Kh ... 1611803772
?

Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it? Apparently there is a story going around that this version of events corrects?

[Virgo]

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it? Apparently there is a story going around that this version of events corrects?

I would also like to know.

Kevin

[Malcolm]

Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it? Apparently there is a story going around that this version of events corrects?

Perhaps it was brought to his attention that the book was not selling well and that there were many copies which had not been sold.

[Pero]

Yeah, pg. 32 onwards until end. When you compare with ChNN's account, seems to be a huge difference of opinion about Chago Tobden's devotion to Heka Lingpa.

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it? Apparently there is a story going around that this version of events corrects?

Not sure' about a story "going around" (although in the book preface it mentions the tensions are alive and well) but basically I think that it's because an incredible master like Uncle Khyentse was pretty much erased from Tibetan history due to power struggles between his and Khyentse Chokyi Lodro's attendants. We as his students also received teachings that come from Uncle Khyentse - Guru Tragphur and Vajrapani are his terma teachings (all other termas of his were lost if I remember right). So we should know about him and we can't really read about him anywhere else. That book on KCL's life is probably the only one that says something about it and if you read just that you could develop wrong views about Uncle Khyentse.

Doesn't mean Malcolm's reason can't be true as well haha.

[Rinchen Dorje]

oh ok...well thats cool..if he thinks its a good read..good enough for me

[Simon E.]

That's not the only difference. By reading OT''s account you get the impression Uncle Khyentse (of apparently questionable recognition to some) was just some ordinary dude who chanced into luxury etc.

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it? Apparently there is a story going around that this version of events corrects?

Perhaps it was brought to his attention that the book was not selling well and that there were many copies which had not been sold.

I'm glad it was not just me that thought occurred to.

[Harimoo]

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it?

Because you've got to know the previous life of your future guru ?

[Malcolm]

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it?

Because you've got to know the previous life of your future guru ?

Yeshe Namkhai is only the guru of those who choose to follow his teachings.

[florin]

ok, so I ordered the book because Rinpoche recommends it...however, can anyone clue me in to the reason why he wants everyone to read it?

Because you've got to know the previous life of your future guru ?

Yeshe Namkhai is only the guru of those who choose to follow his teachings.

In an interview from 2010 rinpoche said that the future responsibilities for his longsal termas lie with his son.